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Re: Ask HN: How to deal with markets down turn? Feeling down

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Be aware that: 1) we're likely in a declining/sideways market for at least another year until inflation subsides, possibly longer 2) the Fed has most of the control over the inflation/deflation levers (on demand side) 3) markets will most likely recover over the long term, historically speaking The Fed is purposefully reducing their asset holdings and increasing interest rates to slow down demand, which in theory sho…

I agree with most of this, but note that stock prices don't track real-world events as closely as you're suggesting. They're based on competing predictions of the future. The market will (or has already) hit bottom when the average prediction starts being less pessimistic, not when inflation actually subsides or the Fed actually lowers rates.

The defining feature of bear markets is not direction, but high volatility -- they look like a random walk without a clear upper or lower bound.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with markets down turn? Feeling down

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Since the GP talks about stock options I’m guessing these are part of their total compensation and not a discretionary investment. I’m in a similar boat - stock is about 50% of my total compensation but its value has dropped by 90%. It’s hard to be blasé about losing almost half my income.

I don't understand how someone can tie 50% of their income to a highly volatile asset. But thanks for the perspective.

That’s how my employer and many other large tech companies structure compensation.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with markets down turn? Feeling down

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I am not a financial advisor, but I think markets are far from bottoming out. NASDAQ touched the resistance line, if it breaks it, we will go down even more. I also have multiple stocks that are >50% down, but if the fundamentals of the company has not changed since you invested when the price was higher, why not to buy it cheaper with discount to DCA. As for me, in this market turmoil I just keep saving cash for the…

Are you in aggressive short positions?

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with markets down turn? Feeling down

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Cash the side line has been a great allocation for this whole year. As the mantra goes, don’t fight the fed.

The problem is getting out before things drop, and getting back in when the drop is "over": * https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2018/10/the-psychology-of-s... By sitting in cash you're also losing money through inflation: * https://ofdollarsanddata.com/the-cost-of-waiting/ At the end of the day you should always be invested, and if you're worried about market undulations then you should own some bonds. And besides red…

If you cut early and miss the top 5% of profits then buy back in at 5% above the bottom when it rebounds you'll do pretty well.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with markets down turn? Feeling down

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What was your motivation to invest in such a way that 95% loss was even possible?

To make money, why else? Look folks, this wasn't my retirement money, it was money I didn't particularly need and had no idea what to do with. It always worked for me before. My investing history is a long string of huge successes beginning in 2014. I've always invested in companies I believed in and that had solid fundamentals. It appears the market doesn't give a shit about company fundamentals right now. Most smal…

For what it’s worth, you can convert your losses into a few thousand upvotes on https://reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with markets down turn? Feeling down

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Fidelity did a survey of thier customers whose 401k did the best over the years. The most popular response (about 1/3) was 'I don't have a 401k at fidelity'. They had forgotten about it and left it alone to grow through good and bad. If you know how your investments are doing you know too much

Your first and second sentence made me laugh out loud because I thought it was a joke. The explanation makes perfect sense though - buy and hold beats the average attempt at market timing.

Time in the market beats timing the market.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with markets down turn? Feeling down

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To make money, why else? Look folks, this wasn't my retirement money, it was money I didn't particularly need and had no idea what to do with. It always worked for me before. My investing history is a long string of huge successes beginning in 2014. I've always invested in companies I believed in and that had solid fundamentals. It appears the market doesn't give a shit about company fundamentals right now. Most smal…

For what it’s worth, you can convert your losses into a few thousand upvotes on https://reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets

I know you're joking, but as much as i've learned that my self worth doesn't come from making money, it doesn't come from bragging about losing it either :)

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with markets down turn? Feeling down

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Investments doing so well these last 40 years is the unusual part. Vast majority of the gains in the stock market over its history happened from 1977-2007.

The FTSE 100 is almost at the same level as in 2014, those betting that the S&P 500 will always be different than the rest of the exchanges/indeces might be in for a nasty surprise.

> The FTSE 100 is almost at the same level as in 2014

The FTSE 100 is currently at almost exactly the same level as it was on New Year's Eve December 1999!

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