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Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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This section makes it even more confusing to me, since I thought that the whole cell phone transmission restriction theater had been removed a few years ago. Was that only within the US and I've been violating EU regulations for years?

Is the cell phone transmission theater even lifted in the US? I still get asked to turn on airplane mode regularly (though Wi-Fi is okay)

Just so there's no confusion on this, the cell phone rule is FCC, not FAA. It's not about interfering with the aircraft, it's about causing problems with cell networks.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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I do see how they'd find it bothersome. Imagine what it must be like that the situation before was: "Oh no my baggage is lost!" "Oooh that's rough! We'll let ya know!" then nothing. Where now what it might be like is: "Oh no my baggage is lost at XYZ airport at your terminal" and that accountability is somewhat forced now because they can't just say it wasn't found or it is 'in transit' when it really isn't.

FWIW I showed an AA baggage customer service rep the location of my bag (within 200ft of where we were standing), the response I got was, “that’s nice, we’ll get you your bag when we get you your bag” - so while it’s nice to know where your bag is, the airlines will continue to not care until there are financial consequences for not delivering as promised.

AA is the worst. I would be here all day if I were to explain all the things they did on a single flight, NY to Akron. I rented a car and drove home, so not to expose myself to that again. Have not flown AA since.

Now JetBlue codeshares with AA. Worried.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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So do cargo monitoring (temperature/tilt/vibration/tampering) devices, which are in a lot of commercial cargo - especially vaccine shipments, but any sort of sensitive equipment being air-freighted. So do wireless earbuds, watches both smart and "dumb", hearing aides, sport sensors including chest heartrate monitors and bike sensors/computers, travel alarms, book lights, e-readers, keychain flashlights, film cameras,…

This really should be a top level comment, as it’s spot on imho.

It would be spot on if Lufthansa actually gave a different answer for those.

I bet you if you call Lufthansa and say "I want to put wireless earbuds in my checked baggage" they will also tell you they need to be switched off.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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It'll be in good company with dialing, film, photograph, watching the tube, etc. Actually photo graph was already out of date, because graph had morphed from "to write" to making any kind of image. Which itself I believe meant something akin to inscription /engraving. Actually while photograph may no longer be a graph as in image on a surface, in some ways it's still an image impressed on rocks. Made using lithograph…

-graph effectively means recording, storing, so photograph is still very much valid and will forever be.

Yup, "photograph" is literally "light recording".

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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For all the people commenting "How would they know?", AirTags are scannable by NFC readers and identify themselves as an AirTag. You can test this yourself by downloading the NFC Tools app on your iPhone (or one for Android) and doing a read on the AirTag. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nfc-tools/id1252962749

> "How would they know?" They don't have to know. All they want to do is respond to "You lost my bag" with "But you jeopardized the entire flight with your illegal transmitter".

You don't need to reveal your AirTag to report a lost bag.

And carrying an AirTag, even if it were against their rules, does not somehow absolve them of their duty to return the bag (and/or pay for the lost luggage).

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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There could be non-cynical motives for airlines not to want customers to be able to track their baggage. Getting weird enquiries about whether bags have been stolen because they are in some unexpected non-airport location, when it's just a place the airline uses to handle delayed baggage, is probably troublesome for them.

Delta has been providing live updates of luggage locations for years without an issue. They're claiming it's due to radio transmission anyways.

This. I get a notification when it gets loaded and unloaded from a plane, and I can view the exact times it was accepted, got on a plane, got off the plane, and if it's in the right airport or not.

They're scanned every step of the way anyway. It's absolutely ridiculous for a carrier to come back with "we don't know where your bag is". Especially in 2022.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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> If you must pack your tablet, mobile or laptop in your checked luggage, be sure they are completely turned off (not in "hibernate" or "sleep" modes).

Mentioning hibernation is inaccurate. The whole point on hibernation is to save the OS RAM to disk/SSD so that the machine can be completely powered off and unplugged without losing work.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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The term airplane mode will persist as an anachronism forever. Some day we will have to explain to our grandchildren why disabling networks has anything to do with airplanes.

It'll be in good company with dialing, film, photograph, watching the tube, etc. Actually photo graph was already out of date, because graph had morphed from "to write" to making any kind of image. Which itself I believe meant something akin to inscription /engraving. Actually while photograph may no longer be a graph as in image on a surface, in some ways it's still an image impressed on rocks. Made using lithograph…

Yes, both γράφω (>graph) and English write seem to have "scratch, carve" as earliest senses.
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