Why is this article from *2009* being posted some 13 years later? I would want to know how things have changed (or haven't) since that time.
U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)
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Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you only lived in one climate? One type of house? There are a lot of different buildings and climates where you will have problems hanging laundry indoors. It definitely can cause mould, it definitely is a health risk without paying extra for dehumidifiers. And dehumidifiers are not great for the environment either as well as costing extra. So two good reasons to hang out rather than in. Plus hanging laundry out…
Dryer did not exists and human have been drying clothes in most climates in the last few thousand of years. That being said : I see what you mean. I grew up in France ( dryer don’t exists ) and it’s easy to dry stuff there. Except maybe in winter. Now I’m in Louisiana… yeah, it’s humid. But if you put things in the sun it does dry super quick too.
> Dryer did not exists and human have been drying clothes in most climates in the last few thousand of years.
Yes, and most of that drying happened outside. Also, moldy rooms and people having to deal with mold were a thing in the past.
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#183Quoted post unavailable.
When I lived in the United States, I realized that it is not a uniform country at all. Just as Europe varies greatly from one country to the next. Something that is common in New York City may be illegal or considered outrageous in Utah, or vice versa.
Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)
#184I'm more interested in the rationale given about being offended by underwear (aka 'unmentionables'). American puritanism is so pure that someone will find a way to weaponize it
From personal experience it almost assuredly has nothing to do with feeling offended by underwear itself.
The complaining party simply thinks (correctly) that they will get more traction from their neighbors/public/city council/HoA if they wail about that vs. general clothes line drying they find distasteful.
I have nothing good to say about people like this, other than to say they are a large and growing segment of the US population.
Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)
#185For the entirety of my life, we've hung or clothes to dry inside. No dryer. No, they don't smell bad. Yes, even with small kids in the household. No, there is no problem with mold. No, it doesn't take forever, I'd estimate twelve hours most of the year, depending on how fast you spun them (typically 1200+ rpm). Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. In terms of energy efficien…
> Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. How does adding latent heat reduce the sensible heat? Are the clothes washed in very cold water?
> How does adding latent heat reduce the sensible heat? Are the clothes washed in very cold water?
You're not adding latent heat to a room, you're adding water, which when evaporating uses up the heat energy in the room which cools it down.
Look into how swamp chillers work.
Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you only lived in one climate? One type of house? There are a lot of different buildings and climates where you will have problems hanging laundry indoors. It definitely can cause mould, it definitely is a health risk without paying extra for dehumidifiers. And dehumidifiers are not great for the environment either as well as costing extra. So two good reasons to hang out rather than in. Plus hanging laundry out…
Dryer did not exists and human have been drying clothes in most climates in the last few thousand of years. That being said : I see what you mean. I grew up in France ( dryer don’t exists ) and it’s easy to dry stuff there. Except maybe in winter. Now I’m in Louisiana… yeah, it’s humid. But if you put things in the sun it does dry super quick too.
> Dryer did not exists and human have been drying clothes in most climates in the last few thousand of years.
Washing machines did not exist until recently either, but no one in this thread is advocating hand washing their clothes.
> That being said : I see what you mean. I grew up in France ( dryer don’t exists ) and it’s easy to dry stuff there. Except maybe in winter.
In the US dryers and washing machines are a set pair. If a washing machine is in a location then a dryer is there also unless someone went out of their way to only buy a washing machine. For example laundromats all have dryers as does any laundry room in an apartment complex or apartments with washing machines.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
You agree to the contract. As simple as that.
Why would anyone do that, then?
Because they might want to live in a place without laundry or rotting cars in the front yard.
Also common is HOAs for 55+ year olds, who essentially don't want to deal with kids around.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
In some lower class places or college town neighborhoods I’m sure people wouldn’t care but in most middle and upper middle class places, people take pride in their homes and communities and something like that would be considered outrageous.
I've noticed that you haven't actually delineated why you think this sort of thing is bad. Could you elaborate please? Not trolling I sincerely want to know
Simply put, it's trashy.
Putting indoor furniture outdoors is inappropriate as it isn't made for outdoor use. It will grow mold and rot and fall apart and it will become a nest for rodents and attract insect colonies that can spread everywhere. It will smell bad and reflects poorly on those that live nearby. I wouldn't buy a home in an area where I saw something like that. If you were to poll my neighborhood (granted the average home is over $1,000,000) I guarantee everyone would agree. Even where I grew up which was very blue color, you wouldn't see anything like this and you could be certain a neighbor would have a talk with you if you tried.
We don't live like that.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
You agree to the contract. As simple as that.
Why would anyone do that, then?
Because in many areas these are almost the only homes available in certain price ranges and sizes.
If you want new construction and are not independently wealthy, you would be extremely challenged to find a house not under a HoA.
It's eye opening when looking in some areas how hundreds of square miles of developments are 100% HoA controlled.
I would never buy such a place, but I do understand why some folks would feel forced into such a transaction.
Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)
#190Drying without a dryer sucks big time. They call appliances "modern conveniences" for a reason. Sure, if you're a hip cool 20-something who does a load of laundry per week air-drying is fine. Try being a household with a couple kids and a baby under 2 and hanging your laundry everyday. It's a waste of time and frankly sucks. I've done it.
What does this have to do with the article? It doesn’t claim that hanging your clothes to dry is more convenient; only more economical and environmentally friendly.
Not everybody on the planet (or in the US) has selection pressures that maximize convenience. We’d probably be worse off as a society if that was our only consideration.