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SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
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Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's explained in the post. The FTC accused them of being anti-competitive. The only way to show you're not anti-competitive is to demand documents of your opponents that demonstrate you still have competition.
Then why not share to the FTC themselves and not META so that you can still keep it confidential from your competition?
In general it's a good idea to let the defendant decide how to argue their case and have access to evidence, for better and worse.
Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's explained in the post. The FTC accused them of being anti-competitive. The only way to show you're not anti-competitive is to demand documents of your opponents that demonstrate you still have competition.
Then why not share to the FTC themselves and not META so that you can still keep it confidential from your competition?
Because FTC isn't the defendant. How would anyone share counter evidence to the plaintiff?
Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's explained in the post. The FTC accused them of being anti-competitive. The only way to show you're not anti-competitive is to demand documents of your opponents that demonstrate you still have competition.
Seems like a "I'll know when I see it" situation. In that, if the FTC thinks they are anti-competitive, they probably are and at least should be blocked from acquiring their competition. Breaking them up or taking actual action against them would require deeper investigation with FTC taking the lead rather than potentially handing sensitive documents over to the offending company. If the company wants to fight the bl…
> In that, if the FTC thinks they are anti-competitive, they probably are
Wait? What?
It seems like a pretty strange position to just assume that the government is always right. I mean, if I said, all people the police arrest are probably guilty and should go to jail, I would hope you'd disagree.
Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
#45From their post, it appears that Simula don't intend to comply with the subpoena. IANAL. Does receipt of these documents carry an obligation to provide the documents and deposition requested? Does this open them to later legal action if they refuse? It seems like a strange thing for a corporation to be able to demand that other companies hand over stuff like this, no matter the circumstance.
Just to clarify: we're seeking legal counsel and intend to comply with the law. Many other larger companies have fought these subpoenas (Snap, etc) and, as far as we can tell, still had to hand over items.
Time to get well-versed in malicious compliance.
Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to clarify: we're seeking legal counsel and intend to comply with the law. Many other larger companies have fought these subpoenas (Snap, etc) and, as far as we can tell, still had to hand over items.
I know it's not helpful at this point, but you really should have had a relationship with a lawyer already. But now is the next best time. This is just the first time you're running into issues. As you grow, you're almost guaranteed to hit more. You'd also be smart to have a lawyer available to review all of your intellectual property, terms of service, privacy policies, etc. I'm just a solo punter myself, but having…
We already have standing legal counsel. George made it sound like we're just now seeking a lawyer, but we already reviewed our policies etc in the past.
Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
#47This is not Meta demanding to see some privilege information that exists in Simula's drawers, but rather commandeering the entire competing organization to do market research for Meta. It is clever and evil, and nothing anybody says after this will make me think that Meta is not anti-competitive nor that they have an once of ethics. As a consumer, I doubt I will ever again consider their VR products; I rather give my…
I don’t really know the rules of evidence, but I don’t think this is coming directly from Meta, nor that they’re allowed to review these documents themselves. The subpoena has to come from the court, and so I imagine it’s the court reviewing the documents, not Meta. I sure hope that’s how it works. I’d love for a lawyer to chime in, though.
IANAL, but I would imagine that at the very least, Meta's lawyers would need to be able to see the documentation so that they can adequately prepare their argument/defense.
Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
#48If I were simulaVR, I would make this very painful to meta.
You would put together business plans that literally say no other vendor can compete against meta. Basically confirm the anti-competition. That even that subpeona is anticompetive and an attempt to further crush them.
Malicious compliance the entire way.
Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
#49I know this story won’t make headline news but boy, Meta sure seem to be going out of their way to shred every last bit of goodwill they have with, well, everyone?
Re: SimulaVR Has Been Subpoenaed by Meta Platforms, Inc
#50>We're don't view ourselves in competition with Meta >...Meta sells reasonably good gaming headsets to customers who want to be entertained in VR; we're selling general-purpose productivity devices which are aimed at replacing PCs and laptops. Hate to break it to you, but if you don't think that Mark Zuckerberg is actively trying to create VR devices that are general-purpose productivity devices aimed at replacing PC…
Mark wants to be able to sell apps and ads on his end-to-end controlled platform, that is it.
He missed the boat on browsers and smartphones, so he is aiming for total monopoly of what he believes is the next-big-thing™.