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Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by rory »

kranke155 wrote: post #37
givemeethekeys wrote: post #3

Learn the new AI tools and market yourself as an AI video production consultant.

Not a job I’m interested in tbh.

Are you genuinely asking for advice on what to do? It seems like your options are embrace the new tech, find a niche where you can outcompete it, or find a new way to support yourself that you like better. HN can't tell you which of those to choose.

Personally I think there's a good chance you're overestimating the the extent to which your day-to-day job will actually change by incorporating AI. Machine learning was supposed to take over data science years ago, but data scientists are in more demand than ever, and their work often doesn't involve too much actual machine learning.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by dan_mctree »

robertlagrant wrote: post #4

Some excerpts from your website in the future: "We use AI to optimise our early-stage iterations" "AI is great for generating initial concepts. Here are some of ourfavourites, and some that didn't turn out so well!" "Did you know AI can reduce our turnaround for clients by up to 50%?" In other words: it'll help. It won't replace you.

Artists which use AI and become more efficient will drive up supply of art and decrease its price. Additionally, some people who need art might just skip the artist entirely now, leading to less demand. This means some artists may no longer be able to make a living. As in, they're effectively replaced.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by tenebrisalietum »

Human language is inexact and context sensitive. This means the precise meaning of words in communications is unique to the time, place, and members of the communication.

Because of this, there will never be a 100% reliable "text prompt to AI image" generator. Someone will have to get to know the AI and figure out how to make it do what is wanted, or modify it to get what is wanted.

Kinda the same way Google and other information repositories have not made researcher's jobs obsolete.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by someweirdperson »

etrautmann wrote: post #34
Wistar wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a whole lot of unapologetic artistic theft of others’ work that has contributed to the creation of new art.

why do we even call it theft or pretend that any artist arrived at ideas without inspiration?

For humans the inspiration can be something else than the medium to use. Watching reality can provide inspiration for creating a video. And I'm pretty sure that's wher most inspiration comes from. It cannot for AI. Of course in a world where everything exists AI doesn't need inspiration from other sources.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by HellDunkel »

egypturnash wrote: post #22

I am a 2d artist and I have similar feelings. Are you as full of loathing for all the HN people saying “just integrate the AI into your practice” as I am? I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead. I think a strategy of creating an image of AI art as cheap and tacky is useful. For how long, I don’t know. If we’re lucky then it’ll tu…

I work in CGI/design. We have had machine learning denoisers for some time but other than that ai has not changed cgi much. VR another hype, merely a distraction- the serious work is not VR. Now things like stable diffusion- lots of people toying around- serious tool for artists- not really. Do not worry. Develop your artistic skills and enjoy the journey.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by OJFord »

adamredwoods wrote: post #27
madsbuch wrote: post #11

Add these technologies to your toolbox. It is not easy to do "prompt engineering". Keep in mind that most generated material looks awful -- there is a huge selection bias going on. The outputted stuff needs to made production ready also, distribution, etc. If anything, the emergence of these technologies should greatly expand. You will have a new customer base that was not available before, and you will be able to de…

Agreed, we're still decades away from solid results. I compare this to automated driving: Truck drivers and cab drivers are still in business. Another example is the uncanny valley of CGI people: at what point was it acceptable to audiences, and at what point was it excellent?

> I compare this to automated driving: Truck drivers and cab drivers are still in business.

It's pretty early to declare that a victory for human drivers isn't it? I'd be worried, if I were them.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by exolymph »

egypturnash wrote: post #22

I am a 2d artist and I have similar feelings. Are you as full of loathing for all the HN people saying “just integrate the AI into your practice” as I am? I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead. I think a strategy of creating an image of AI art as cheap and tacky is useful. For how long, I don’t know. If we’re lucky then it’ll tu…

> I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead.

I'm not sure how to say this in a non-dickish way, but most of us have to do stuff we don't particularly enjoy in order to make a living. I get that it sucks from your vantage point, but like... I'm sure there were stablehands who loved horses and had no interest in becoming mechanics. Shit happens.

I'm a writer and equally in danger of automated replacement, but so it goes. Maybe I'll end up curating and editing GPT7 output instead of drafting everything myself — I can live with that. It's not like my paid work was written for fun in the first place.

The art I make for my own satisfaction, I expect to continue crafting word by word, and I think people will continue to appreciate that painstaking expression of the human spirit. Just not in a commercial context.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by micromacrofoot »

Wistar wrote: post #28
lbarrow wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the difference between a human artist walking around in the world, seeing images and videos (many of which are under copyright) and then using those images as inspiration, versus an AI being fed millions of images and videos as part of a large training set? I am not a lawyer but I don't really see the "it's not fair use" argument.

There's a whole lot of unapologetic artistic theft of others’ work that has contributed to the creation of new art.

That could describe the entirety of art history.

Re: Ask HN: What am I supposed to do after I’m “disrupted”? Work in video and CG

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Post by shakabrah »

exolymph wrote: post #48
egypturnash wrote: post #22

I am a 2d artist and I have similar feelings. Are you as full of loathing for all the HN people saying “just integrate the AI into your practice” as I am? I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead. I think a strategy of creating an image of AI art as cheap and tacky is useful. For how long, I don’t know. If we’re lucky then it’ll tu…

> I like drawing stuff and I love that this pays my bills and I really have zero interest in becoming a “prompt engineer” instead. I'm not sure how to say this in a non-dickish way, but most of us have to do stuff we don't particularly enjoy in order to make a living. I get that it sucks from your vantage point, but like... I'm sure there were stablehands who loved horses and had no interest in becoming mechanics. Sh…

The problem with your example is that it assumes there is a place for him to go to. Stable hands becoming mechanics. That is the key concern with automation replacing jobs is that it is a zero sum game.
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