Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months • Hacker News Board

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by indymike » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:46 PM UTC

Would be interesting to see this chart: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13yGlJzFpVzZ-WNHAOsdo...

With traffic stats for HN, so we could see if there was a change in traffic/participation, or something else.

My personal thought is that many startups have been advised by investors to trim the sails for less follow on capital for a while, and that results in more conservative hiring. What I'm seeing at the day job (I have a recruiting tech platform), is that non-tech companies have plenty of open tech jobs to go around - and still can't find enough people.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by joshstrange » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:46 PM UTC

killingtime74 wrote: post #25

Has anyone actually gotten much success in either direction (hirer/candidate) from these posts?

I got hired for my current job based on a "who wants to be hired" thread. I've also been reached out to 2-3 times based on comments I've made (some recent, some a few weeks/months old) on HN asking me to interview for a position.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by dcatx » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:46 PM UTC

killingtime74 wrote: post #25

Has anyone actually gotten much success in either direction (hirer/candidate) from these posts?

I posted as a candidate in one thread over the summer and got contacted by ~10 companies and did a handful of interviews — a couple were duds with non-technical founders casting a wide net but others were solid opportunities. I also applied to a few jobs from that same month's employers thread and got to the offer stage with one of those companies.

I had enough success to try again the next time I am looking for a new gig.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by CoastalCoder » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:46 PM UTC

killingtime74 wrote: post #25

Has anyone actually gotten much success in either direction (hirer/candidate) from these posts?

I got previous two jobs via Who's Hiring. And, indirectly, my current job due to networking from the previous.

I also recently interviewed for another position advertised via Who's Hiring. I didn't take the offer, but it was a very close decision.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by newbie578 » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:46 PM UTC

I do have to comment that while I see a lot of job postings online (incl. HN), the requirements are going up as crazy.

People wanting a Mobile Developer with knowledge both in iOS and Android, and it wouldn't hurt if you knew some crass platform solution also.

I see posting with wanting 8+ years in a particular framework or language...

Am I the only one who finds that insane? I know that before "the requirements" were more like "wants" and if you are a good candidate, the company will give you a chance, but I have had situations right now where the recruiter would just answer point blank that all of the requirements must be met...

How are people with under 2,3,4 years of experience supposed to find a better paying job?

God forbid if you are fresh from college...

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by justinlloyd » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:48 PM UTC

killingtime74 wrote: post #25

Has anyone actually gotten much success in either direction (hirer/candidate) from these posts?

My current position is directly attributable to a "who wants to be hired?" post where the founders reached out to me directly. I have gotten to final offer stage with at least four companies in the past two years, and had several dozen more interesting conversations about potential opportunities that have all come through the "who wants to be hired?" thread.

I post every month on the "who wants to be hired?" thread except for when the 1st of the month falls on a weekend or a national holiday in the US. Why? Because the number of people reading the thread, and the number of people posting on "who is hiring?" threads dips precipitously when the 1st of the month falls on the weekend or a national holiday in the US.

Most of the outreach I get from founders through "who wants to be hired?" is low-effort "we'll pay you in exposure!" or "well you can't live on what we're paying in any major meotropolitan area but think of the equity when we IPO!" but occasionally there is a diamond in the rough that reaches out. My current job was one of those diamonds.

The difference between entrepreneurs who "get it" when selling their company on the "who is hiring thread?" and those that don't is stark. And even more stark is the difference between entrepreneurs selling their company to prospective hires on the "who is hiring thread?" vs developers selling their skillset on the "who wants to be hired?" thread. It is the difference between selling features vs selling benefits writ large.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by kiernanmcgowan » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:48 PM UTC

anonygler wrote: post #37

I feel like people are trying to wish the economy into a recession / depression, but I really don't see it happening. I do see some belt tightening wrt SaaS expenditures. There's still a massive demand for labor. While the housing market has fallen, the actual cost of buying a house is still rising. Rate increases have well outpaced the list price reductions. So I think all this talk of a recession is just a bunch of…

It feels like _something_ is happening, but it's not quite the recession that people are fearing. The US is somehow at the lowest unemployment rates we've seen and people are saying it's all going to collapse which just feels off. If the US hits 5% unemployment that simultaneously worse off than where we are but still a solid economic position.

My pet theory is that everyone is just tired, so damned tired, and seeps into everything.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by newbie578 » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:48 PM UTC

indymike wrote: post #41

Would be interesting to see this chart: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13yGlJzFpVzZ-WNHAOsdo... With traffic stats for HN, so we could see if there was a change in traffic/participation, or something else. My personal thought is that many startups have been advised by investors to trim the sails for less follow on capital for a while, and that results in more conservative hiring. What I'm seeing at the day jo…

Mind sharing some cool facts regarding your experience from the platform?

What is currently in demand, what is desirable?

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by Joel_Mckay » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:49 PM UTC

No one knows what the economic forecast looks like these days, and anyone that thinks they do is fooling themselves. Whats happening in the EU/GB is very real, and uncoordinated inflationary control measures are amplifying issues.

Around Q2/Q3 of 2023 we should have most supply chains stabilized again, and a better estimate of actual market demand.

Hang on, it is going to be one volatile winter... ;)

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by jamesgreenleaf » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 5:50 PM UTC

OJFord wrote: post #7

Who is hiring vs. wants to be hired (top-level) post count disparity could be a fun one to track.

I actually check that sometimes. Anecdotally, I remember the ratio being ~4.5 in 2019, then ~3.5 during the pandemic. This month it's at 1.8

I don't know if it really means anything though.