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EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Protecting me from using my existing cables? Gee, thanks.

> using my existing cables This won't apply retroactively, new iphones after X date will have to be shipped with USB-C

> This won't apply retroactively

No, but the parent’s point is still valid - many people own more than one lightning cable and/or lightning-enabled accessory (charging docks, stereos, etc) and as soon as you own an iPhone with USB-C, they’ll immediately become either useless or require yet another adapter.

This already happened once when the iPhone switched from the iPod connector to Lightning, and people revolted for this exact reason.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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I agree with the overall tone in the comments here: yay in general, but what a shame a law needs to specify a specific port for ~iPhones~ devices. I really like USB-C. It's sooo convenient to charge my notebook, my headphones, my phone, my everything with the same cable. However what bothers me since someone pointed it out to me: for phones, which are used all day in all kind of situations, lightning has a big andvan…

Very much agree. The port design of lightning is superior, too bad that now a law mandates Apple to sell the inferior solution. But that’s what you get when laws eliminate competition.

Apple has been using the law to stop other phones coming with lightning ports. If they had left it open the market may well have chosen it.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #218

I agree with the overall tone in the comments here: yay in general, but what a shame a law needs to specify a specific port for ~iPhones~ devices. I really like USB-C. It's sooo convenient to charge my notebook, my headphones, my phone, my everything with the same cable. However what bothers me since someone pointed it out to me: for phones, which are used all day in all kind of situations, lightning has a big andvan…

Well i really like magsafe :)

They're not incompatible. They make bootleg magsafe USB-C cables.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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This is an awesome move in my opinion. While it's pretty much defactor making it universal and legally required will be with the cutter and waste that is created by often requiring a special charger or a different charge for a device.

Not really. I will have to replace my AirPods, iPad and touchpad and iPhone for this to be the case.

I assume it will take ten years or so.

Really I would just love a small usbc female to lighting male. Would solve all my cable problems basically.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Are there exceptions to this for things like small devices? For instance, my Xiaomi smart watch charges with a USB->magnetic pogo pin adapter and that seems apt for the small size.

Way easier than trying to fiddle with a tiny door covering a USB port like on some of my headphones.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumers still don't have a say. Now instead of companies choosing what hardware & features are best for their product, and you then choosing products based on your preferences, EU regulators are now forcing companies (and therefore you) to use whatever they think is best. I think in the case of USB-C it's not too bad just because USB-C is widely agreed to be a good connector that's already widely adopted, but there…

The EU consulted with phone producers before standardizing on micro-USB, then again before standardizing on USB-C, and it will do again when something better comes up. They have explicitly called out not regulating wireless charging for this reason. Yours is a valid concern, but it's not grounded in reality.

Who exactly did they consult with?

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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There’s an eternal conflict between “Chaotic but Smart” vs “Orderly but Dumb.” Historically the tech industry has been very much on the side of “Chaotic but Smart.”

This is a victory for “Orderly but Dumb.”

For the essential read, see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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I'm eager to watch how Apple spins this as a voluntary decision in their product announcement. To see the specific wording they pick for how the timing is a coincidence and they really just care about their customers' best interests.

I think Apple knows they need to switch, but now the EU will take all the bad press and their hands are clean. Such a huge PR win for Apple!
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