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Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

This (coolify) looks very interesting. Since others may have the same question as i do: Does it scale horizontally? We actually have our own racks in datacenter and if i gave 3 machines to it would they handle that? I saw you mention the K8s soonest: is that your scaling solution? Seems it would be simpler. Regardless I think we may look into this.

You can attach any number of servers (and Remote Docker Engines) to a single Coolify instance (docker swarm is not supported).

If you are using a remote server, the building process of an application is done on the remote server and not locally (on Coolify's server), so Coolify won't be affected on how many builds are doing concurrently. The only limit is the CPU/Memory of your servers. :)

The ultimate & standard scaling solution will be K8s.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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I am using Coolify ( https://coolify.io ), an open source self-hosted PaaS which is a relatively newer kid on the block compared to Dokku and CapRover. I tried both of these and I just didn't like how they were, always had some problem or another. In contrast, Coolify has a great GUI that abstracts away the most common things about PaaS hosting, like connecting to GitHub automatically for git push deploys, SSL certif…

Thank you for mentioning Coolify (founder here). :)

Was looking for a service just like this only days ago, and posted to Software Recommendations on Stack Exchange after failing to find anything via web search. If this works as advertised, then you've made something amazing. Haven't tried yet, but have linked on my SE post (to which I recieved no other replies so far!).

https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/a/84179/7653

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, the founder of Coolify here. I'm constantly adding new features to Coolify. Which ones are you missing (except Docker Swarm)?

The one thing I’m missing in Caprover, and that would make me switch instantly, is I want to be able to feed it a docker-compose file to run a whole stack. Now if a service has only a docker-compose file I have to pull it apart and start every service individually.

That feature is currently WIP. :)

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm considering the same for https://pwpush.com . Currently on paid Heroku ($59/month) with a lot of traffic. DO App Platform is better than last year but still a bit quirky. I haven't found a better alternative that is more 1) mature, 2) reliable, 3) paid/supported, 4) enough features.

After clicking the link to pwpush.com I had a recollection of the splash page.. Seems we've met before! https://gist.github.com/stevecondylios/16a53b73f22621e3cde2e... Awesome to hear Password Pusher is going very well :)

Ah that's great. I still use that Feedback form too :-)

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #150

Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

When did it become acceptable for the official installation method to be running a random script on your server? No one should be running that without personally verifying each line. What if I want to uninstall it? (I haven’t looked at this script) but many don’t effectively clean up properly after uninstalling, as that’s an afterthought. What is specifically wrong with the dozens of existing packaging solutions we a…

You shouldn't use internet either, is dangerous

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #150

Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

When did it become acceptable for the official installation method to be running a random script on your server? No one should be running that without personally verifying each line. What if I want to uninstall it? (I haven’t looked at this script) but many don’t effectively clean up properly after uninstalling, as that’s an afterthought. What is specifically wrong with the dozens of existing packaging solutions we a…

It became acceptable along with containers, so that the very OS the script is working on, is already isolated and disposable. You also mentioned dozens of packaging solutions. Which package manager should a single developer target first? Which package manager offers safety assurances enough that a customer wouldn't need to "personally verify each line" of the package manager's script?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#157

Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

Hi! While the project does look very interesting, i'm kind of put off by the code. While it is pretty organized and neat, I can see that all of the services offered are hard-coded. Like the 330 lines long if-else chain in apps/api/src/lib/services/common.ts.

This way every time you need to set add a new service to coolify there's the need to ship a new version.

Why did you choose to go this way rather than a more generalized concept of a service? Wouldn't having a generic service architecture be more maintainable and ( imo ) more importantly add the capability to have a dynamic, global and customizable 'app store' of sort?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #150

Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

When did it become acceptable for the official installation method to be running a random script on your server? No one should be running that without personally verifying each line. What if I want to uninstall it? (I haven’t looked at this script) but many don’t effectively clean up properly after uninstalling, as that’s an afterthought. What is specifically wrong with the dozens of existing packaging solutions we a…

> No one should be running that without personally verifying each line.

Do you also verify each line of software you install? If you trust the author of certain software, why do you mistrust their install script?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #95

We wrote a blog post with a comparison of the prominent alternatives for Heroku: https://blog.flycode.com/7-excellent-alternatives-to-heroku we compare there Render, Fly.io, Railway, Porter, Northflank, Koyeb and Qoddi.com

Thanks for sharing. This introduced a few I missed back when I was evaluating alternatives. Nothing I have tried so far fits quite as well as Heroku but Porter looks like it has a chance…

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS is IaaS not PaaS. With IaaS you need to hire competent infra admins. PaaS abstracts away much of that requirement.

https://aws.amazon.com/apprunner/ https://aws.amazon.com/lambda/ https://aws.amazon.com/fargate/ https://aws.amazon.com/appsync/ https://aws.amazon.com/elasticbeanstalk/

BTW, EB (Elastic Beanstalk) is generally viewed as just for those getting started, but I've seen companies build really serious stuff (and at significant scale) on it, including an extremely high performance distributed IoT time series database (that was 10 years ago, back before there were good time series DBs to just use).

AWS doesn't push EB much, partly because it does offer great value and doesn't make them nearly as much money as things like FarGate or AppSync. If you need something that just does what really needs doing cheaply and well, though, give it another look.

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