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Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Post by nomilk »

pSYoniK wrote: post #100

1. Not a lot of work, probably a day to move things. 2. Almost none. I used Heroku and understood what it was doing on a very surface level. I knew I could push my repo and my project would automagically be "there", but since I was early on in my learning process, I didn't know for sure what was happening. So the migration was a great experience to understand how to setup my website, how to setup a reverse proxy, how…

> the migration was a great experience to understand how to setup my website, how to setup a reverse proxy, how to prepare the certificates, how to secure a linux box

If you have any resources on the topics you had to learn, please share!

> I went as far as to setup my own home server.

Congrats! How long did it take you to skill up from Heroku to home server?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Post by olieidel »

Throwing Scalingo [1] in here because I feel they get way less exposure than they deserve. We [2] offer a SaaS for medical device companies. GDPR compliance made us look for a EU-based company, and the recent Heroku situations (disappearing free tier and GitHub OAuth fiasco) made us switch to Scalingo. Scalingo is based in France.

Their PaaS is rock-solid. The UI sometimes looks less polished but that shouldn't detract from the fact that their service quality is really, really good. No problems so far. When I had questions, I've been in touch with their support - you have real engineers responding to your message in a few hours. Really cool.

I've recently come to increasingly appreciate profitable, bootstrapped startups, because they have (much) less incentive of getting acquired, subsequently shifting their focus to "scale" and "enterprise sales" (wait, which company comes to mind here.. ah, Heroku). Scalingo is bootstrapped and profitable.

Why not render.com or fly.io? Both are based in the US, so GDPR compliance becomes more tricky. They're VC-funded, so I have no clue what will happen to them in the future. Maybe they'll be profitable and their investors will say "oh okay, it's fine to have a boring, profitable startup in our portfolio". Maybe not. Likely not.

[1] https://scalingo.com

[2] https://openregulatory.com

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Post by hankchinaski »

BigglesZX wrote: post #65
hankchinaski wrote: post #43

DigitalOcean. Databases are much cheaper. No big deal in moving as digital ocean app platform supports buildpacks

I've been waiting to make this same move but holding back because DOAP isn't quite as featureful yet, e.g. not supporting scheduled jobs, which for some reason ALL my Heroku-based projects use in some way.

For scheduled jobs right now is a pita I expose HTTP endpoints which I call from an outside service on a scheduled basis

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Post by hrdwdmrbl »

evolve2k wrote: post #23

I went with render.com (no affiliation). Found them fairly easy to use, really excellent support.

I'll chime in and say that I did the same. A lot of people like Fly but I wanted super low complexity. My hope has mostly panned out. I was able to move without too much difficulty and I'm happy with how it turned out.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Post by pglombardo »

hankchinaski wrote: post #43

DigitalOcean. Databases are much cheaper. No big deal in moving as digital ocean app platform supports buildpacks

I'm considering the same for https://pwpush.com. Currently on paid Heroku ($59/month) with a lot of traffic.

DO App Platform is better than last year but still a bit quirky. I haven't found a better alternative that is more 1) mature, 2) reliable, 3) paid/supported, 4) enough features.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Post by dizhn »

charlieegan3 wrote: post #46

I have moved a Rails and Go app to https://northflank.com . I have my Rails app running in their free project (limited to two services and 2 jobs) and my Go app in a paid project. I find the pricing to be very reasonable and considerably cheaper than Heroku. I was looking for somewhere I could run web services and cron jobs both in the same place. They have a Heroku importer, however I think you need to ask to have i…

Do you see a way to delete your account in your account settings? Their privacy policy says it should be there but I can't find it.

I actually don't see a way to delete a project once created either.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#109

Post by flakiness »

davidguetta wrote: post #68
heeton wrote: post #59

I have 4 apps running on fly.io for most of this year and can recommend them. 2 are elixir apps that have been created on fly, 1 was an elixir app I had running on heroku, and 1 was rails app on heroku I recently migrated. I used their heroku migrator and it worked pretty much automatically. I had a few steps to follow to move the DB, but their docs covered it - https://fly.io/docs/rails/getting-started/migrate-from-…

Price ?

Relatively cheap with some free tier? https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/ One good thing is there is no DB-specific premium. It seems their PG is just an "app" on the platform and storage is priced accordingly.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Post by pglombardo »

solarkraft wrote: post #47
selcuka wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you planning to make a disclosure regarding that statement, such as being co-founders with Quentin Adam, the founder of Clever Cloud, in other projects?

Ouch! Stuff like this should always be disclosed. Something like "My co-founder / friend built ..." would be totally fine, but this comment looks like it intentionally obscures the connection. Not a good look.

I don't find it a big deal. Smart people will evaluate the offering for themselves and not make a decision based on a 1 line comment on Hacker News.

Plus, I doubt they would spend their lives building the project and not recommend it.

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