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I'm eager to watch how Apple spins this as a voluntary decision in their product announcement. To see the specific wording they pick for how the timing is a coincidence and they really just care about their customers' best interests.
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Thank God nobody ever standardized electrical plugs. I'd hate being able to plug my vacuum cleaner and laptop in the same outlet.
There are at least 3 different standards for wall plugs in the Eu.
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A LOT of less waste maybe ? It is very inconvenient and a hassle to have 5 different cables for 5 different devices. It is a waste of space, materials... The economic gains by volume continent wide should not be underestimated.
Less waste after iPhone users all have to throw away their cables and buy new ones, presumably?
I didn't search _that_ hard, but I can't find the text of the EU directive; everything I did find does seem to mention USB-C explicitly. What is the procedure/convention for superseding this directive when something supersedes USB-C? That said, even if the upgrade path is not expressly defined, I think on balance this is still a good thing. In a "best time to plant a tree was yesterday; second best time is today" kin…
> What is the procedure/convention for superseding this directive when something supersedes USB-C? I believe the EU are saying they'll keep up with new standards as they come in. The problem I see is, how can a new standard come in if nobody is allowed to use it. Its a chicken & egg problem, the EU will allow new standards as they're used, but nobody is allowed to use new standards until the EU allows it. Thats aside…
It's just like we have new modern electronics, but they are all able to plug into the same wall sockets. I don't have to remodel my home.
Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…
Personally, I am happy to see that some governments still care about consumer protection.
Is this just mandating the physical plug? USB-C has a near infinite number of power delivery and/or data modes. Not to mention thunderbolt, display port, etc which are totally different protocols running on the same physical cable as USB-C. How will this legislation be maintained? Are Europeans going to be stuck to USB-C in 30 years, when the rest of the world has phones that charge wirelessly in 10 seconds and last…
Read the directive for yourself: https://oeil.secure.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/popups/ficheproc...
I do wish there were type C USB condoms that passed PD only but they are hard to build.
EU previously required USB mini A, and permit wireless (which isn’t completely standardized) so I wouldn’t worry about the “30 years” problem, though it’s a good problem to have: IEC 60320 is over 50 years old: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320
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I'm pretty sure if I remember a technology connections video right, that EU Tesla's already ship with either the standard port or an adapter, none of the US supercharger plug mess.
Do they charge as fast? Is there a trade off for the standard port being used in the EU?
The trade off for the CCS2 plug is mainly that it is a bit bigger than other plugs, but it's really nice to have a standard across almost all of Europe.