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EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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How about all the waste when over a billion iPhone users throw out Lightning accessories?

That'll only happen once, compared to the impact of eternally having two separate charging ecosystems.

And again when USB-D comes along

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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This is an awesome move in my opinion. While it's pretty much defactor making it universal and legally required will be with the cutter and waste that is created by often requiring a special charger or a different charge for a device.

How about all the waste when over a billion iPhone users throw out Lightning accessories?

How about not stubbornly staying with lightning when Apple had the option to switch to usb-c? They did that with malicious compliance to upsell their damn adapter.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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How about all the waste when over a billion iPhone users throw out Lightning accessories?

Apple will do what they did with micro usb chargers. Bring out an dongle.

The law disallows dongles as a "solution".

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #108

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There is no reason the EU can't upgrade to a new standard, or the USB consortium can't create a backward compatible upgrade. My USB 1.0 keyboard from long ago still works, BTW. Meanwhile, I have a box full of chargers for all kinds of old stuff. Replacing them all with 1 standard is great. And USB is doing just that, not only for cell phones but for all kinds of gadgets. Even if I only require an USB micro and an USB…

> This kind of process is quite normal for technology decisions in europe, BTW. Europe is technologically backwards. They got destroyed by Shenzhen and Silicon Valley because their bureaucrats keep rolling in with this sort of idiocy. They feel a need to bring this backseat design process because their local companies aren't up to the challenge of competing with more-nimble American megacorporations. Their phone comp…

> Their phone company (Nokia) was the market leader until they got wrecked by an inability to innovate

Until they got wrecked by ex-Microsoftie North American Steve Elop - who drove the company agains the wall so hard that many people who looked at it at the time said that it couldn't have been accidental...

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #129

Fast-Forward to Autumn 2023 or Spring 2024 : Tim Cook: (40:20) Now let’s talk about iPhone. iPhone has forever changed the world. Every single day people rely on iPhone, from their most demanding tasks to capturing the moments of their lives, streaming their favorite TV shows, playing their favorite games, staying up to date with the news of the world and connecting with friends and loved ones. Tim Cook: (40:42) This…

I thought it was going to have no ports and only wireless charging

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #33

LET'S GO EU! These headlines make me proud. Let's reach a global standard for charging stuff. I wish everything that had to be charged sometimes had a USB-C plug. But also I hope that the USB standard gets less messy in the future.

What if a device doesn't need all the extra pins in the USB-C connector? What if it only uses VBUS/D+/D-/GND?

There are cheaper USB-C connectors available with fewer pins for that purpose

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

I hope this moves them to add USB-4/thunderbolt along with adding support for an ipad-style desktop when connected to an external monitor.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #102

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Who can imagine that something better then USB-C will ever come along though? Apparently not the people passing this law.

This is what I find most short-sighted about this. I swear the typical connectors I use for electronics have changed several times over the last decade alone (mini USB, micro USB, USB-C). The idea that innovation in this space is done seems optimistic to me. So now every few years do we just need to hope the EU will update it's laws in a timely manner so we can get better connectors for our electronics?

You do know that the reason we were using micro-USB for everything instead of a hodgepodge of proprietary connectors ie because of the same EU body bringing the hammer down that is now also mandating USB-C?

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #19

This gives me some cognitive dissonance. On the one hand, having a common connector will reduce waste and be much more convenient (eg "Hey have you got an iPhone charger?") and make losing a charger a cheaper mistake. On the other hand I'm not sure I like the idea of government mandating electrical connectors on devices, which could stifle innovation, or be very shortsighted in the typical government-rules-on-tech wa…

Thank God nobody ever standardized electrical plugs. I'd hate being able to plug my vacuum cleaner and laptop in the same outlet.

There are at least 3 different standards for wall plugs in the Eu.
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