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EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024
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#122Now do Laptops.
They did, coming into effect in 2026.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tell me. How many different kind of chargers and connectors did you have before the EU mandated everyone should use micro-usb (or something equally standardized)? And how many do you have now? Personally I had 1 charger per device I had, each with their own weird connector, and each cable sold at $20+ a pop, and definitely more if you wanted a "data-cable". These days I only have 2: USB for almost everything, and Lig…
It was not mandatory. It was just a suggestion with voluntary adoption. I have nothing against standardization. I'm against the "mandatory" fact.
It was mandatory in the sense that EU told manufacturers that they either agree on the standard or the EU will make the choice for them. No way in hell voluntary adoption would be of the scale that it was without the EU threat.
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#124This is an awesome move in my opinion. While it's pretty much defactor making it universal and legally required will be with the cutter and waste that is created by often requiring a special charger or a different charge for a device.
How about all the waste when over a billion iPhone users throw out Lightning accessories?
That'll only happen once, compared to the impact of eternally having two separate charging ecosystems.
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#125This year Apple removed another long standing port from their devices. This time around it was the sim tray. Apple is going completely portless with their devices. By the time this law is in effect there will be no external ports on Apples devices. Anyone want to take bets on whether Apple introduces its own wireless charging standard at that time or the following year?
> This time around it was the sim tray.
Only in the US, I believe. My UK iPhone 14 certainly has a SIM tray with a physical SIM in it - lucky, really, because my provider doesn't support eSIMs.
[edit: just checked and it seems my provider is the only big one that doesn't support them.]
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#126Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…
Because apple refuses to play ball otherwise. Capitalism has failed and is now producing tonnes of unnecessary e-waste.
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#127Forced usb-c charger for laptops is concerning.
1) it is additional attack vector, what if maid in my hotel enhanced my charging brick with rubber ducky?
2) mag safe is very convenient
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#128Currently Apple sells new iPhone 12s, a 3 year old "design". Starting 2024, they'll have to only sell phones with USB-C in the EU. Assuming the iPhone 15 has USB-C, where does that leave the previous generations that they keep selling for new? Do they: 1. Stop selling anything but the 15 in the EU? 2. Make a change to all new iPhones, even 13, 14, SE to: 2.1 Take out the port completely and leave it portless, with Ma…
Tesla appears to have no problem selling EVs with standard plugs in places where it’s mandatory.
(1) https://cleantechnica.com/2018/11/14/tesla-model-3-in-europe...
I think Apple will find a way to say that the iPhone 12 was made before the law was enacted and therefore shouldn’t apply to this particular model.
I also think the iPhone 15 will be the one to have with USB-C. At the same time, they haven’t had too many problems to keep multiple SKUs of the same model - ie CDMA iPhone 4, mmWave only 5G phones in the US, eSIM only versions of later models.
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#129Fast-Forward to Autumn 2023 or Spring 2024 :
Tim Cook: (40:20) Now let’s talk about iPhone. iPhone has forever changed the world. Every single day people rely on iPhone, from their most demanding tasks to capturing the moments of their lives, streaming their favorite TV shows, playing their favorite games, staying up to date with the news of the world and connecting with friends and loved ones.
Tim Cook: (40:42) This is what drives us to create the best iPhone possible. To create an experience unlike any other, with legendary ease of use, beautiful and durable designs with water resistance and great battery life, with industry leading performance and the world’s most advanced camera systems, and with privacy built in. People love iPhone, and we keep making iPhone better, more powerful, more capable, and even more fun to use. Today, we are thrilled to introduce our next generation of iPhone. Here it is.
Tim Cook: (41:54) [inaudible 00:41:54]
Tim Cook: (41:55) This is iPhone {15,16}. To tell you more, here’s Kianne.
Cayenne: (42:24) Let’s take a closer look at, iPhone {15,16}, starting with design. It has the sleek, flat edge design that people love. It also have a fantastic new charging port, featuring the same USB-C connector as our beloved iPad, developed in a tremendous effort to {fight against climate change and electronic waste,further enhance the connectivity of the iPhone {15,16}}.
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#130I wonder what the EU thinks of Tesla's charging port? Will all electric cars in the EU eventually be regulated into using J1772 ports without an adapter?
EU doesn't use J1772 but CCS Combo 2 instead (for DC fast charging and AC). Vehicles without DC charging usually have a Mennekes connector. Tesla has an adapter to allow charging via CCS. Almost all cars in Europe use CCS, except for a few older Asian cars which may use CHAdeMO. Modern Tesla vehicles also use standard CCS.
Besides, this EU regulation is for small portable electronics. Last time I checked I didn't carry my car in my back pocket.
Legislation to require CCS on charging points has been active in the EU since 2014, 8 years ago.