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Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

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Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

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I wonder if any internal rumors of this were part of the sort of "exodus" from Giant Bomb a while back. Even Gerstmann left and is now just doing his own thing solo.

I would be surprised if acquisition rumors made it that far down the chain so early, but I’m sure that Jeff saw the writing on the wall with how RV management was approaching things.

Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

#92
post #21

OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…

> How can good content be monetized in a way that allows it to remain independent and not succumb to warping its content to feed that monetization? How can it be audience driven instead? Is such a thing even possible? Unfortunately I don't think this is possible. As soon as you bring in ads you open the door to the AdTech bullshit parade. The incentive goes from making good content to clickbait because that drives hi…

> I think the best content is going to continue to be entirely community run Wikis.

The challenge here is that Fandom own a near monopoly on videogame wikis. Competing with them is exceptionally difficult.

It's something myself and a few other folks have done when we forked the Path of Exile wiki from Fandom to poewiki.net, we've been officially recognised by the game creators, have acquired hundreds of thousands of legitimate backlinks and yet Google still prefer to serve Fandom pages instead of ours.

Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

#93
post #74
post #21

OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…

I wonder what happened to the p2p craze? That seems like the solution to the hosting costs.

PeerTube is the only one that I've heard about any lately.

Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

#94
post #10
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> to the point many communities set up their own wikis to avoid dealing with it. Which is a good thing honestly. There's such a big difference in usability between the independent internet that exists out of genuine passion/interest and the internet that's run by advertising companies and people looking to make money off advertisements.

True. Wikia's existence meant things like the Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance and Square Enix Independent Wiki Alliance could put out some actually good wikis about the games they cover. Stuff like Mario Wiki, Bulbapedia, the Super Smash Bros Wiki, etc are significantly better than their Wikia/Fandom counterparts, and have proved you can defeat the service in the Google rankings by providing a better service. Just…

> Bulbapedia

Curse used to traffic the ads for this site, at least in 2016 when I worked for them. They may very well still be getting trafficked by Fandom who have since acquired Curse Media.

Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

#95
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow this is pretty awesome, thanks for sharing. Would love to see this packaged up as a browser extension so that it would automatically 'fix' any fandom wiki I happen to load up. The fandom wikis are just...terrible from a UX standpoint. And it's a shame that such massive game wikis like Minecraft and Terraria are trapped on Fandom (via a former buyout of gamepedia). A plea to game developers: If you aren't willing…

>Would love to see this packaged up as a browser extension so that it would automatically 'fix' any fandom wiki I happen to load up. https://docs.breezewiki.com/Automatic_Redirection.html

Awesome, thank you!

Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

#96
post #21

OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…

> We had one of the largest podcasts in the world and the hosting bills were killing us.

If only there were a way to distribute files freely, in distributed, decentralized fashion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent

Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

#97
post #74
post #21

OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…

I wonder what happened to the p2p craze? That seems like the solution to the hosting costs.

P2P video is extremely difficult to do well. Video is sensitive to transfer bitrate, data order, and timing. None of these are things P2P is really good at providing. While P2P can ask for data ordering the actual availability of that order is dependent on the participants in the swarm.

Even then as a host you need to provide seeds for all your videos as a P2P swarm will only ever help with currently popular videos. So in actuality P2P ends up with similar hosting costs to traditional video hosting only providing a bandwidth savings on viral content everyone watches simultaneously.

Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

#98
post #56
post #21

OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…

> With video though, it's extremely hard to run independently. I just left a company that's doing its level best to make this more affordable and achievable for small organizations, and I wish them the absolute best, but this was true when GB was new and it's still true now. Video is just too many bits across too many gatekeepers (like any of the big clouds). It's not that there isn't transit capacity, it's that ever…

How far does PeerTube or something similar go towards solving this problem? You'll still need to seed the initial streams, but if you get a big spike of users, they'll seed the video amongst each other.

Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest problem is this all-consuming search for a bigger profit. It's absolutely possible to make a decent living off of content-creation, and YT or Twitch could be profitable businesses by just supporting that. However, they have probably reached their maximum audience, and so their profit would stop increasing if they just did that, and no growth, even for a profitable business, means desperate investors in th…

I don't know how reasonable it is to make a decent living off of YT/Twitch without an added patreon or some other revenue stream. Creators I'm a fan of constantly complain about being demonetized and unlisted, and needing to wrangle the algorithm.

I meant that it used to be possible to just use YT/Twitch, but as those have been nickle-and-diming creators and modifying their algorithms to control what content is served, it has become harder and harder.

Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic

#100

I recognize some old Whiskey Media companies on that list. Have not followed them much after the CBS acquisition and Ryan Davis' passing. Hope they're all doing well over there.

The founding GiantBomb staff members have all left since the sale to Red Ventures:

- Vinny, Brad, and Alex left last year, and later re-grouped and started Nextlander, which is basically GB but without having to build their own platform (live Twitch streams, on-demand videos on YouTube, and Simplecast- and Patreon-hosted podcasts), and Brad works with another Whiskey alum, Will Smith, on a separate tech podcast and open-source specific podcast

- Jeff left a few months ago and is basically doing the same as Nextlander, only largely on his own

Nextlander has done a few things with GiantBomb, most recently a video around the new Splatoon game[0], but Jeff hasn't appeared directly yet.

[0]: https://www.giantbomb.com/videos/splat-off-giant-bomb-vs-nex...

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