OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…
You're asking tech bros who get paid $250K/year running those very scams you've just outlined.
Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic
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#73OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…
Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic
#74OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…
Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic
#75OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…
Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic
#76OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…
Once the network is established as a good place for creators to be able to actually make money, you attract the good creators. They aren't getting pennies on an ad (or, if they are, that's what they were happy with; we all start somewhere/traffic volume is important); they're getting the full ad buy minus some percentage for the site (more like 10% -20%, less like 50%-90%).
As the site, acting as a publisher, you get to dictate the ad network, and set boundaries for keeping things profitable (neo-hayes-code "cost of doing business" gatekeeping). As content creators, they get freedom of association and deal-making (which includes refusing to serve ads that they disagree with).
Then, when you have a solid network of solid content, you layer in a subscription model which could allow you to sensibly bundle content. While each content creator could set their own subscription tiers (including free ones, for the purposes of advertising their own content or giving things away for free because they are such absolute champions), they would be able to opt-in certain tiers to be "bundled", which would allow users to pick and choose content creators that they want their subscription bundles to apply to. This is where you get to the first rumblings of reasonable payment for journalism work. Because, as far as I know, it's almost impossible to get people to pay for journalism, no matter how good it is. But if you can add it in to a bundle, while still letting people choose their outlets/sources, you can subsidize the journalism with the media profit (like how we do it on TV).
Of course, to facilitate that, the site would need some robust utilities for writing new articles, such that it might be indistinguishable from a WYSIWYG website creator, but that's not something that's insurmountable. Especially if the site is profitable.
Anyway, that's my swing. I've been working on it, myself, but it's not like I ever intended to run a social media app. I certainly don't have the funds to run it, myself, and it's an untested model so investment would be very surprising. So just POC stuff and collecting feedback from content creators. It all seems very promising, but I still haven't answered the question of 'will it make money?'
Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic
#77A good part of the revenue eventually was generated by cheaply generated meme content while longer form, crafted content was suffering. I'm honestly surprised they're still going. I assumed Jeff would peel off with most of the Giant Bomb guys and start something new by now. All that's left there is the Giant Bomb personalities and even that's not enough to float GameSpot and the others. GameFaqs should probably go back to its original owner.
These days when I tell actual gamers I used to work on GameSpot, they always think I mean GameStop and then don't even know what GameSpot is. It is a pretty pointless thing now given you can watch any number of Twitch streams to see what any game is like and is worth playing.
...anyway I'm sure this was a fire sale of an asset CBS forced Red Ventures to take in order to get CNET. I'm also surprised it took this long for Red Ventures to dump it.
*Edit* Ok wow I did not realize the Giant Bomb as I knew it completely fell apart. So Jeff did leave as did Vinny and Brad and they are doing their own things now. I don't know anything about the new crew but I don't see how any can complete with even the most mediocre Twitch streamer.
Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic
#78OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…
Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic
#79Oh god this is worrying. Fandom has already made Wikia an absolutely unusable, ad ridden nightmare, to the point many communities set up their own wikis to avoid dealing with it. I hope they don't apply that same monetisation to GameSpot, GameFAQs, etc. Otherwise those sites will die almost overnight.
Re: Fandom Acquires GameSpot, Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, TV Guide and Metacritic
#80OG founder of Giant Bomb / Comicvine / Whiskey Media here. I was also at CNET during the acquisition of Metacritic and helped build large portions of Gamespot and TV.com. I'm 10-years removed from these properties so I feel OK talking about them. The sad reality is the Internet publishing is dead and as a business that business is nearly impossible to operate if you have any moral compass. In its place we have variou…
Unfortunately I don't think this is possible. As soon as you bring in ads you open the door to the AdTech bullshit parade. The incentive goes from making good content to clickbait because that drives hits. Subscriptions can pay hosting bills but it's not going to let anyone get paid a meaningful amount of money for co tributing let alone write full time for a site.
I think the best content is going to continue to be entirely community run Wikis. Stuff like NIWA. They aren't going to replace journalism but then game journalism has been barely journalism for decades. Most has just been/is warmed over press releases or reporting on someone else's reporting.