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Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by chrisseaton »

j-kent wrote: post #19

Imagine if you had a Netflix subscription, and still had to pay for every movie you watched. This is what Stadia felt like to me.

Streaming Netflix is relatively simple - each customer just needs to read a stored stream. I think they even put dedicated servers at edges like ISPs, so it's not even on the public internet!

Streaming a game requires an actual real GPU being (I guess) exclusively used by that customer while they're playing. Not feasible to put those in edge locations.

Completely different set of costs.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by goblinux »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #26
aaaaaaaaaaab wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You don't know what you have until it is gone. Still grieving for Google Reader.

Same here, but on the bright side it forced me to switch to a paid app which is infinitely better.

Which app?

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by philliphaydon »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #26
aaaaaaaaaaab wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You don't know what you have until it is gone. Still grieving for Google Reader.

Same here, but on the bright side it forced me to switch to a paid app which is infinitely better.

What’s the paid app? I miss Google reader and all the blogs I used to subscribe to.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by skybrian »

aeturnum wrote: post #14

The thing that I find odd about Google is that it feels like they drink their own coolaid. Reports I've seen suggest that nearly no one knew this was coming. Teams who have been working on ports for months were blind-sided. Employees generally did not know. It just seems like a very poor way to run a business. It feels sloppy and needlessly messy. Especially when providing soft landings is so possible for a company w…

The announcement seems sudden but actually it's with about three months notice. It does seem a little short, but how much would it help to drag it out further? How much time do you want to spend on a project that's shutting down?

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by mkl »

gumby wrote: post #22
bamboozled wrote: post #9

I have some business stuff hosted on GCP. I'm actually starting to worry about that, I think it would be weird if GCP was discontinued but I don't know anymore?

Google’s, what, like #4 or #5 in cloud computing? And in a market where #1 has something like a third of the entire market. Doesn’t look good.

#3, it seems [1], but less than a third the size of AWS and less than half of Azure.

[1] https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2afswwuvis94wy12r320w/..., https://www.ciodive.com/news/aws-microsoft-google-cloud-mark...

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by modeless »

labster wrote: post #8

It’s the final day of the free tier of Google Apps they promised they would never take away from me. I run a web search where the engine ignores my excluded terms[1]. Sad. But the I log into Gmail. Another redesign, thank goodness! Too bad I can’t XMPP message my friends to tell them about it. [1]: https://www.google.com/search?q=49ers+-football+-nfl

Are you talking about the free lifetime Google Apps for Your Domain? They did announce that they were canceling it, but they reversed course and you can still keep it by pressing this button: https://support.google.com/a/answer/2855120

I actually closed my account when they first announced the cancellation, which made things more difficult and I had to contact support to get it back (I was successful). But if you haven't done that, I believe all you need to do is press that button.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by bushbaba »

linsomniac wrote: post #28

Personally, I got an offer of a free Stadia controller from Google, took them up on it. It also included an offer for several games free. I searched through the list of games and, honestly, couldn't tell one from the other. They all seemed to be basically the same thing, some sort of FP adventure. My Stadia controller never ended up showing up, but the games were so uninteresting that I never pursued it. My BIL order…

Game developers lacked trust in Google, and didn't want to invest on the platform.

So lack of trust also prevented Google from getting that huge game library.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by bombcar »

m463 wrote: post #29
MarkusWandel wrote: post #13

This is kind of an anti chicken/egg situation! What happened first, the chicken got run over so no more eggs, or the egg got smashed so no more chicken? To clarify the analogy: Nobody trusts Google not to cancel a new thing, so they don't invest any money or effort in the new thing, so it gets cancelled.

I've always said that google dabbles in things (but got downvoted). However, if you look at their history, they cancel many many products. Looking at wikipedia, I see 200 discontinued products (or scheduled like stadia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Schedu...

https://killedbygoogle.com/

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by bombcar »

IronWolve wrote: post #11
bamboozled wrote: post #9

I have some business stuff hosted on GCP. I'm actually starting to worry about that, I think it would be weird if GCP was discontinued but I don't know anymore?

Make a business failover plan now, I already migrated everything off google, its just not worth losing your company over googles inability to be business friendly. Also a backup/failover plan to migrate to any vendor can also mean you can migrate to save money or outage. Or they ban your account by mistake, which on google seems to happen way to often, if you link it to your developer account, or your personal accoun…

This is a good practice for anything you depend on.

And if you find something that you’re absolutely dependent on; either try to mitigate that or accept it and be aware.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by [deleted] »

mkl wrote: post #35
gumby wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google’s, what, like #4 or #5 in cloud computing? And in a market where #1 has something like a third of the entire market. Doesn’t look good.

#3, it seems [1], but less than a third the size of AWS and less than half of Azure. [1] https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2afswwuvis94wy12r320w/... , https://www.ciodive.com/news/aws-microsoft-google-cloud-mark...

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