Stadia died because no one trusts Google • Hacker News Board

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by IronWolve » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:06 AM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #9

I have some business stuff hosted on GCP. I'm actually starting to worry about that, I think it would be weird if GCP was discontinued but I don't know anymore?

Make a business failover plan now, I already migrated everything off google, its just not worth losing your company over googles inability to be business friendly.

Also a backup/failover plan to migrate to any vendor can also mean you can migrate to save money or outage. Or they ban your account by mistake, which on google seems to happen way to often, if you link it to your developer account, or your personal account.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by ndiddy » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:13 AM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #9

I have some business stuff hosted on GCP. I'm actually starting to worry about that, I think it would be weird if GCP was discontinued but I don't know anymore?

You might want to look into migrating: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-202...

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by MarkusWandel » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:13 AM UTC

This is kind of an anti chicken/egg situation! What happened first, the chicken got run over so no more eggs, or the egg got smashed so no more chicken?

To clarify the analogy: Nobody trusts Google not to cancel a new thing, so they don't invest any money or effort in the new thing, so it gets cancelled.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by aeturnum » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:16 AM UTC

The thing that I find odd about Google is that it feels like they drink their own coolaid. Reports I've seen suggest that nearly no one knew this was coming. Teams who have been working on ports for months were blind-sided. Employees generally did not know.

It just seems like a very poor way to run a business. It feels sloppy and needlessly messy. Especially when providing soft landings is so possible for a company with the absurd revenue that Google gets. It feels like a double warning: Google will withdraw suddenly, whenever they like, and they won't use one iota of their largess to help you deal with the consequences of their actions.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by cwillu » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:18 AM UTC

pram wrote: post #10

labster wrote: post #8

It’s the final day of the free tier of Google Apps they promised they would never take away from me. I run a web search where the engine ignores my excluded terms[1]. Sad. But the I log into Gmail. Another redesign, thank goodness! Too bad I can’t XMPP message my friends to tell them about it. [1]: https://www.google.com/search?q=49ers+-football+-nfl

There is actually a free tier. I was confused too, but you have to insert payment and then change your subscription to the free one afterwards. https://support.google.com/a/answer/2855120?hl=en

There's actually a button on the “show me the options” page that lets you declare you're actually a person, without entering CC info.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by cwillu » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:19 AM UTC

labster wrote: post #8

It’s the final day of the free tier of Google Apps they promised they would never take away from me. I run a web search where the engine ignores my excluded terms[1]. Sad. But the I log into Gmail. Another redesign, thank goodness! Too bad I can’t XMPP message my friends to tell them about it. [1]: https://www.google.com/search?q=49ers+-football+-nfl

I swear the excluded terms are interpreted as “not this word, but still related to it”

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by metaltyphoon » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:19 AM UTC

ndiddy wrote: post #12

bamboozled wrote: post #9

I have some business stuff hosted on GCP. I'm actually starting to worry about that, I think it would be weird if GCP was discontinued but I don't know anymore?

You might want to look into migrating: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-202...

I got tons of downvote by saying "I would put one service on GCP just out of principle". Wow, I guess I wasn't so crazy.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by glandium » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:20 AM UTC

MarkusWandel wrote: post #13

This is kind of an anti chicken/egg situation! What happened first, the chicken got run over so no more eggs, or the egg got smashed so no more chicken? To clarify the analogy: Nobody trusts Google not to cancel a new thing, so they don't invest any money or effort in the new thing, so it gets cancelled.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by j-kent » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:21 AM UTC

Imagine if you had a Netflix subscription, and still had to pay for every movie you watched. This is what Stadia felt like to me.

Re: Stadia died because no one trusts Google

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Post by cududa » Sun, Oct 02, 2022, 1:23 AM UTC

aeturnum wrote: post #14

The thing that I find odd about Google is that it feels like they drink their own coolaid. Reports I've seen suggest that nearly no one knew this was coming. Teams who have been working on ports for months were blind-sided. Employees generally did not know. It just seems like a very poor way to run a business. It feels sloppy and needlessly messy. Especially when providing soft landings is so possible for a company w…

Obviously this isn't the same thing, but yes - this seems right. But, I remember my first time going to Google's campus in 2010 and connecting to their guest wifi network. 1Gbps! Insanely cool! Pulled up gmail and google docs and it worked PERFECTLY! My first thought was "...oh this is why their webapps suck - they have no idea how it's being used in the real world where latency is above 10ms"