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Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

tsimionescu wrote: post #88
mr_toad wrote: post #53

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Remember that holographic chess scene from Star Wars? I want that, only with games like Total War, or Sim City. Not sure I’m willing to pay several thousand dollars for it though.

The biggest problem I see is that there is no control scheme available for now to match that. Even if the glasses delivered 100% on that promise, you'd still have to use a mouse and keyboard to play Total War or Sim City in any reasonable way. Not to mention, the vast majority of games try to pull you into their world, and make it seem large or even unending. AR directly works against both goals: you are integrating…

Have you tried Oculus type controllers? They pretty excellent in that it gives you full 3D manipulation and scales well from broad strokes to detail work.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by tluyben2 »

nopenopenopeno wrote: post #72
WaxProlix wrote: post #67

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At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

I have been really looking forward to this. It’s a shame that the video is so awful! Why would anybody go to a coffee shop or public park to put on a VR headset? What were they thinking???

I would and do. It’s a great conversation starter. I got projects and co founders out of it.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by Telemoto »

I own a HTC vive pro. I showed it to my family and friends.

No one was ever motivated enough to come back and play with it more.

AR will also not become 'big' it will be a niche thing for certain jobs.

ML I remember the school sport indoor area with a whale flying around.

Yeah let's see how the future will look like. I don't think this will ever be the big thint

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by MengerSponge »

flyinglizard wrote: post #94
fredsmith219 wrote: post #83

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I agree 100%. They burst into the tech scene with claims that were clearly fraudulent. They have demonstrated that they have no problem lying, so why would anyone support them? https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2016/12/09/magic_leap_neithe...

It’s a completely different group of people now. Nearly no one from the original management remained in Magic Leap, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge them by the actions of their predecessors.

They kept the name, no? I don't begrudge new people wanting to make a new product out of the husk of a defunct company, like Ophiocordyceps. I'm skeptical of people who think the branding and marketing of V1 was A-ok though.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by Dayshine »

thom wrote: post #100
RajT88 wrote: post #37

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If both companies are successful (a big "If"), this means in some years, we'll be hitting another sci-fi milestone for what the future looks like. Thousands of dollars today, but in ~10 years, smartphone prices and hopefully smartphone battery life. It took a bit longer than we'd have liked, but like... Our present is starting to look like the future imagined back when I was a kid . It's very exciting. With a lot les…

Are we really going to end up in VR worlds outside of gaming though? It seems a horribly inefficient way to do most non-physical tasks compared to just text or voice. Why walk somewhere when I can click a link? The attraction of headsets for me is the potential for an effectively infinite resolution, no-distraction desktop. But that desktop is still largely going to be single planes of text and widgets. And even then…

Aren't we talking about AR not VR?

Hololens is AR too.

So this is for things like projecting onto surfaces or creating 3d models for presentation. Hololens's big example is elevator repair where it projects datasheets onto walls so you can see them without needing a spare hand to hold a phone/document.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by thom »

Dayshine wrote: post #105
thom wrote: post #100

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Are we really going to end up in VR worlds outside of gaming though? It seems a horribly inefficient way to do most non-physical tasks compared to just text or voice. Why walk somewhere when I can click a link? The attraction of headsets for me is the potential for an effectively infinite resolution, no-distraction desktop. But that desktop is still largely going to be single planes of text and widgets. And even then…

Aren't we talking about AR not VR? Hololens is AR too. So this is for things like projecting onto surfaces or creating 3d models for presentation. Hololens's big example is elevator repair where it projects datasheets onto walls so you can see them without needing a spare hand to hold a phone/document.

Yeah and I think those sorts of use cases are valid. I just thought the comment above was more about the SF depictions of VR (i.e. the metaverse) being close, which I think is fanciful.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by 314 »

dylan604 wrote: post #75
keyle wrote: post #58

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The dream of consumer AR is dying slowly. It's a disruptive tech that's gone into sleepyland. Look at stable diffusion as a comparison, blows everyone's mind every day for 30 days, moving at an incredible pace, and for free... Sure hardware, vs. software but still, we're in different leagues.

>Sure hardware, vs. software but still, we're in different leagues. Interesting choice in the use of the comma. I know this comment leaves nothing towards the furtherment of the discussion, but it was just odd enough to make me have to stop. I know I typo/myspell, grammatically f'up, there/they're/their typo, all the time, so I'm not grammar pro myself, but just trying to see, if maybe, I can use the, comma, too.

It's a Shatner-Comma, in the, wild.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by wcerfgba »

RajT88 wrote: post #85
dylan604 wrote: post #77

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Does a mall ninja ride a Segway?

Sure, as long as they have a bunch of knives and guns and swords and shit. The original "Mall Ninja" story unironically talked about wheeling around in a golf cart. It's a short stone's throw to a segway from there. https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

This was hilarious, thanks for sharing!

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by printf_alex_ »

Telemoto wrote: post #103

I own a HTC vive pro. I showed it to my family and friends. No one was ever motivated enough to come back and play with it more. AR will also not become 'big' it will be a niche thing for certain jobs. ML I remember the school sport indoor area with a whale flying around. Yeah let's see how the future will look like. I don't think this will ever be the big thint

I disagree. AR will become big since as we progress VR we'll do as we do with computers. Make smaller versions (like all these mini computers posts on HN) to carry with us, but with VR that is not quite possible since we would to stick cameras on the front of the lenses.

You never see movies with people walking around with big VR headsets, they walk around with AR glasses and that would most probably be in the distant future.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by happycube »

chaostheory wrote: post #89
RajT88 wrote: post #37

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If both companies are successful (a big "If"), this means in some years, we'll be hitting another sci-fi milestone for what the future looks like. Thousands of dollars today, but in ~10 years, smartphone prices and hopefully smartphone battery life. It took a bit longer than we'd have liked, but like... Our present is starting to look like the future imagined back when I was a kid . It's very exciting. With a lot les…

Magic Leap is just a zombie at this point. NReal has a better and more realistic strategy. Historically, Microsoft doesn’t know how to make revolutionary product lines profitable and sustainable long term. Kinect was an amazing concept with consecutive poor execution. My memory might be off but they also had 1st crack at iPod, and their current foray into both VR and AR are both underwhelming so far. MS does best whe…

They might've had Windows Media stuff to license before the iPod, but the Zune came later. (and the right parody phrase didn't exist then... "Welcome to the social... distancing.")
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