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Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Does a mall ninja ride a Segway?

Sure, as long as they have a bunch of knives and guns and swords and shit. The original "Mall Ninja" story unironically talked about wheeling around in a golf cart. It's a short stone's throw to a segway from there. https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

Does the ninja need to be dressed in traditional ninja attire or can they cosplay as a mall cop?

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

#92
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You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are looking for this page: https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store.... If you’d rather not click (and I totally understand) let me tell you that the Leap 2 costs between $3200 for the base model and up to $5000 for the enterprise model, which giv…

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

Wow it has HN in the video! Anybody else notice that?

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

#93

The ultimate vaporware. What ever happened to the whale demo?

It's not vaporware. It exists. Maybe not 100% as realistic as the demo, but still very immersive. The only problem is the field of view is still a bit lacking and they cost like $4000-$5000.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

I agree 100%. They burst into the tech scene with claims that were clearly fraudulent. They have demonstrated that they have no problem lying, so why would anyone support them? https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2016/12/09/magic_leap_neithe...

It’s a completely different group of people now. Nearly no one from the original management remained in Magic Leap, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge them by the actions of their predecessors.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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If both companies are successful (a big "If"), this means in some years, we'll be hitting another sci-fi milestone for what the future looks like. Thousands of dollars today, but in ~10 years, smartphone prices and hopefully smartphone battery life. It took a bit longer than we'd have liked, but like... Our present is starting to look like the future imagined back when I was a kid . It's very exciting. With a lot les…

Magic Leap is just a zombie at this point. NReal has a better and more realistic strategy. Historically, Microsoft doesn’t know how to make revolutionary product lines profitable and sustainable long term. Kinect was an amazing concept with consecutive poor execution. My memory might be off but they also had 1st crack at iPod, and their current foray into both VR and AR are both underwhelming so far. MS does best whe…

> We still will be hitting sci-fi soon. Just not with those companies. I have more faith in Apple, Sony, and Meta. Google will try again and I would be surprised if Amazon didn’t try as well

I just had a really weird realization when reading through your list of potential successors. ("Apple, Sony, and Meta"). There's only one name on that list I root for.

Meta? Fuck no. Obviously not them. Nothing else to say here.

Apple? Eh. Sure. I have no ill will against Apple. I have many reasons to continue admiring what they do, and I have some reasons to oppose them (the walls on the garden seem a little too high). On balance they've dominated consumer tech for the best reason: their shit is solid and innovative.

SONY. It's been too long since they last lead technology and design trends. Sony was the Walkman, the CD, the Trinitron. There's never been a remote control as good as a Sony. They have a sleek-but-utilitarian design aesthetic. In the 80s and 90s, you just couldn't go wrong if you picked a Sony for your TV, stereo, or whatever.

For some reason I really want them to be ascendant again. To have a resurgence the same way Apple did starting with the iMac in 1997.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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post #11

I’ll never be able to get over the insanely fake promotional video for the original Magic Leap that demonstrated background occlusion, and not the ghostly overlayed image that the headset actually delivered. The project was presumably shrouded in such secrecy that the marketing folks had no idea what they were actually selling.

Same here. Whenever I hear "Magic Leap", that's instantly what I remember. The fake demo. The light projector that somehow can project "dark".

It's also how I view Nikola[4]. Every mention of that name reminds me of a fake electric semi truck rolling downhill.

[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Corporation#Fraud_alleg...

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

#98
post #8

You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are looking for this page: https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store.... If you’d rather not click (and I totally understand) let me tell you that the Leap 2 costs between $3200 for the base model and up to $5000 for the enterprise model, which giv…

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

If you think a Simula One VR is a substitute for a Magic Leap you probably should be reading more and commenting less about this market.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

#99
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does a mall ninja ride a Segway?

Sure, as long as they have a bunch of knives and guns and swords and shit. The original "Mall Ninja" story unironically talked about wheeling around in a golf cart. It's a short stone's throw to a segway from there. https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

TLDR. Some of the Mall Ninja's comments seem to have been prophetic though:

> What good are the cops going to be if a shooter shows up at your > workplace??? How about your kid’s school, remember Columbine? I’ll > tell you what the cops will do, call the SWAT team and screw > around trying to locate the front door for 30 minutes, ...

;)

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

#100
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post #17

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Puts the price point in direct competition with Hololens.

If both companies are successful (a big "If"), this means in some years, we'll be hitting another sci-fi milestone for what the future looks like. Thousands of dollars today, but in ~10 years, smartphone prices and hopefully smartphone battery life. It took a bit longer than we'd have liked, but like... Our present is starting to look like the future imagined back when I was a kid . It's very exciting. With a lot les…

Are we really going to end up in VR worlds outside of gaming though? It seems a horribly inefficient way to do most non-physical tasks compared to just text or voice. Why walk somewhere when I can click a link? The attraction of headsets for me is the potential for an effectively infinite resolution, no-distraction desktop. But that desktop is still largely going to be single planes of text and widgets. And even then, I’m not wearing the thing on a bus so all the other interfaces still need to exist.

Everyone seems desperate for anime Microsoft Bob and I just don’t see it.

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