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Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by nopenopenopeno »

sockaddr wrote: post #76
nopenopenopeno wrote: post #72

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I have been really looking forward to this. It’s a shame that the video is so awful! Why would anybody go to a coffee shop or public park to put on a VR headset? What were they thinking???

Also watching him try to put that cup of coffee to his face was painful. You’d look like such a tool trying to press that cup against your headset. No wonder they cut that scene so quickly.

According to the expressions on the other peoples’ faces, it seems like there was actually some awareness of how ridiculous it was. Those aren’t expressions of amazement. They’re more like “look at that guy trying to drink coffee with a VR headset on his face. What a tool!”

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by squeaky-clean »

nopenopenopeno wrote: post #72
WaxProlix wrote: post #67

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At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

I have been really looking forward to this. It’s a shame that the video is so awful! Why would anybody go to a coffee shop or public park to put on a VR headset? What were they thinking???

Are the other customers with laptops supposed to look creeped out and angry at him? I imagine the direction they were aiming for is envy, but it looks like they want the weirdo to leave.

It worked in making me interested in the product at least. A standalone headset with Linux and not by Facebook? Those details are all I needed to know regardless of any marketing video.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by fredsmith219 »

WaxProlix wrote: post #67
IHLayman wrote: post #8

You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are looking for this page: https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store.... If you’d rather not click (and I totally understand) let me tell you that the Leap 2 costs between $3200 for the base model and up to $5000 for the enterprise model, which giv…

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

I agree 100%. They burst into the tech scene with claims that were clearly fraudulent. They have demonstrated that they have no problem lying, so why would anyone support them? https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2016/12/09/magic_leap_neithe...

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by RajT88 »

dylan604 wrote: post #77
kortex wrote: post #55

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They are still the 3rd largest economy in the world. Katanas would still be weird. Unless it's a mall ninja.

Does a mall ninja ride a Segway?

Sure, as long as they have a bunch of knives and guns and swords and shit.

The original "Mall Ninja" story unironically talked about wheeling around in a golf cart. It's a short stone's throw to a segway from there.

https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by [deleted] »

nopenopenopeno wrote: post #78
khazhoux wrote: post #50

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You are giving the CEO way too much credit . I followed the story from the beginning, and from the beginning it was clear he was lying through his teeth about what the technology was capable of. With his "my amazing technology is so advanced, I can't even secretly tell you how secretly we are secretly keeping the technology advances secret." Pure bullshit, and I'm glad to see someone like that fail. Bullshitters erod…

I’m sorry to say it but “honest entrepreneurs” are just failed bullshitters. Entrepreneurism is attractive because it’s the closest thing to freedom under capitalism, and the closest thing to dictatorship.

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Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by chaostheory »

nopenopenopeno wrote: post #72
WaxProlix wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

I have been really looking forward to this. It’s a shame that the video is so awful! Why would anybody go to a coffee shop or public park to put on a VR headset? What were they thinking???

Yeah, I think everyone agrees that the product is interesting, but the marketing is terrible. It’s like the opposite of Magic Leap

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by tsimionescu »

mr_toad wrote: post #53
fallingmeat wrote: post #15

what are the killer apps for this? maybe someone more bullish can summarize who this customer is?

Remember that holographic chess scene from Star Wars? I want that, only with games like Total War, or Sim City. Not sure I’m willing to pay several thousand dollars for it though.

The biggest problem I see is that there is no control scheme available for now to match that. Even if the glasses delivered 100% on that promise, you'd still have to use a mouse and keyboard to play Total War or Sim City in any reasonable way.

Not to mention, the vast majority of games try to pull you into their world, and make it seem large or even unending. AR directly works against both goals: you are integrating the game into familiar surroundings, and the game space becomes severely limited. Sure, there is some space for things like Pokemon Go or other "bring the magic/tech/? into your daily life", but this is a very limited setting.

From this point of view, I believe gaming with AR is never going to take off (though there could well be space for a handful of extremely popular games, like Minecraft or Pokemon Go), and VR is far more promising in this space. I also think that neither VR nor AR will make any serious impact unless and until some new control scheme is invented that can actually feel different than sitting in front of a screen (but with the screen hanging from your head).

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by chaostheory »

RajT88 wrote: post #37
mey wrote: post #17

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Puts the price point in direct competition with Hololens.

If both companies are successful (a big "If"), this means in some years, we'll be hitting another sci-fi milestone for what the future looks like. Thousands of dollars today, but in ~10 years, smartphone prices and hopefully smartphone battery life. It took a bit longer than we'd have liked, but like... Our present is starting to look like the future imagined back when I was a kid . It's very exciting. With a lot les…

Magic Leap is just a zombie at this point. NReal has a better and more realistic strategy.

Historically, Microsoft doesn’t know how to make revolutionary product lines profitable and sustainable long term. Kinect was an amazing concept with consecutive poor execution. My memory might be off but they also had 1st crack at iPod, and their current foray into both VR and AR are both underwhelming so far. MS does best when they wait and copy a proven concept. Even then success isn’t always guaranteed

We still will be hitting sci-fi soon. Just not with those companies. I have more faith in Apple, Sony, and Meta. Google will try again and I would be surprised if Amazon didn’t try as well

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by foobiekr »

khazhoux wrote: post #50
dmix wrote: post #19

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Meh this could turn out to be a success story. The original founder had more experience in medical and enterprise sales. He wasn’t a B2C type of CEO and probably was surrounded by yes men and the adoring media who fed into his ego. They obviously over played their hand and they were given tons of hype and probably felt the pressure. Not an excuse obviously. But we shouldn’t shame people for shooting for the moon and…

You are giving the CEO way too much credit . I followed the story from the beginning, and from the beginning it was clear he was lying through his teeth about what the technology was capable of. With his "my amazing technology is so advanced, I can't even secretly tell you how secretly we are secretly keeping the technology advances secret." Pure bullshit, and I'm glad to see someone like that fail. Bullshitters erod…

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