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Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by jesuscript »

PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value

I disagree with this. I found it unmanageable to do my own backups without the cloud and remember passwords.

I trust my bank because the the government has laws to protect me.

We have zero laws for cloud platforms. In the event of a shutdown or request to transfer off to another cloud, laws should be in place where these companies must comply. We are in the cave man era of cloud platforms on a legal level.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by imdsm »

cruano wrote: post #74
dmix wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't measure an addiction just by total hours invested in something. That equals 2.4hrs/day, 16hrs/week since the game was released, which might be more indicative but still depends on the reset of their life obligations and what else they seek value from.

Yeah but isn't that a single player game ? Even if it had 100+ hours of gameplay, you'd have to repeat that so many times to get to 6000 hours Very different from someone that plays video games a few hours every day

This is entirely dependent on the person. Some people have to have something new every single day, and some people like to enjoy the same stuff. Some people try new beers every time they go out, and some people drink their favourite.

Years back, I spent roughly 20,000 hours in WoW, starting 2006 and the last time I played, a year or two ago. 20,000 hours doing the same stuff, one could argue, but those hours have brought me joy, relaxation, excitement, and friendship.

Downtime is important — how you choose to decompress is up to you, but it's important, especially with high stress or high pressure jobs. Some months you'll be putting in 80 hours a week, weekends included, and other times you'll lower it, to take a bit of a breather, 40 hours a week with some games or TV.

We shouldn't be calling people addicts because they go fishing every Sunday, or watch TV every evening, or, play RDR2 every day.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by sirsinsalot »

password321 wrote: post #98
sirsinsalot wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making those kinds of value judgements usually suggests the person making the judgement has some work to do on themselves. The real question is: Is that person happy/content/comfortable. That's what matters, however they get there.

Is short lived feel good chemicals all that matters? Doesn't sound like a healthy life philosophy to live by.

Who said short lived?

Why is living with an aim of happiness and contentment unhealthy?

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by chillfox »

vrykoul wrote: post #34

RDR2 was released in November of 2019 on Stadia. If he played every day, it would be about 5 hours a day. Assuming he took 2 days off a week: 152 weeks since release 152 * (5 days per week) = 760 days 24 * 760 = 18240 hours 6000 / 18240 = ~0.33 .33 * 24 = ~8 hours every day. That's not a game, that's a job.

Yep,

The guys twitter profile says "YouTube/TikTok Creator for #RedDeadOnline on Stadia.". So, it's a job.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by FredPret »

martincmartin wrote: post #39
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

I had the same with Factorio, only I actually did get divorced. I went through many attempts to quit - including deleting my Steam account.

Eventually I set up the household to Mac & Linux only to help increase the friction. Along with a lifestyle overhaul - new hobbies, and actual sport played outside, non-gaming seems to stick.

Gaming addiction is real and it can truly destroy a life.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by ElCheapo »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #77
ElCheapo wrote: post #63

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You should make noise because, unless you signed some particular contract, the code is your intellectual property and it's illegal to just take it away from you. I bought Stadia and read the contract, I was under no illusion that I could export save files or progress to other platforms. You don't own the games you play, if you cared you'd buy from GoG.

It's not that far fetched. A lot of people rely on third party services to host and manage their source code.

And every time people are advised to keep a local copy. I have a bunch of stuff on an Amazon Glacier account for convenience, but I still keep an HDD in the closet

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by ok123456 »

Entinel wrote: post #30
PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

It is if your hobby engages in psychological dark patterns to manipulate you to keep playing.

There's a difference when your hobby is, say, lifting weights a couple hours per week, vs being manipulated into playing a video game 6 hours per day and buying lootcrates every couple of days.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by [deleted] »

Entinel wrote: post #56
slothtrop wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of that is threatened with the loss of a virtual character in RD2.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make. If I had 6k hours invested in literally anything I'd be pretty upset with it being taken away.

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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

I’ve probably logged in thousands of hours watching, discussing, analyzing sports (not playing - that’s a separate metric)

Most older people have likely spent even more hours than this.

Yet spending 2 hours watching football, then another hour watching a bunch of talking heads discuss the game, is somehow considered “normal”.

I’m not a gamer, but what about this hobby is any different from any other passive sedentary hobby? Even reading fiction isn’t any particularly different, is it?

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