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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by navigate8310 »

mynameishere wrote: post #28
bartread wrote: post #10

5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

Some people spend that much watching sports, so... Also if you look at steam reviews they say the number of hours played. Some people have 10k+ for some games.

I believe some buy games to farm trading cards and artificially increase their playtime. How skewed this data is only Valve knows as they have capabilities to identify farmers but don't do much.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by gamebrothrow2 »

behaveEc0n00 wrote: post #21
bartread wrote: post #10

5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

I know there have been gamers like this for years but in this case 2 of the 4 years were during a mandatory isolate at home public health crisis. It’s possible this was actually a positive escape to help cope. Personally I’m not attached to digital ephemera. I’ve already lost more save games and files of one type of content over another to be used to it. I’d call the clingy-ness the real issue. Others have to put in…

> positive escape to help cope.

This is certainly true. Though public health analysis only shows correlations, not causations, between video game playing and decreased alcohol and drug use. And in my life, whenever I knew men whose girlfriends would relentlessly harp on their video game playing, it gets substituted by alcohol.

In medicine it is called video game fixation. I’m concerned though that it is not open as a possibility that what they are calling a disease is closer to a medicine than certainly alcohol, tobacco or drug use are. Closer to how coffee is used for tiredness, maybe, for a depressed 15-25yo male, than to any of those things. That said this guy is spending 33% of his life, and video game fixation can also look like 90%, which is certainly pathological.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by just_boost_it »

onion2k wrote: post #17
bartread wrote: post #10

5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

It's 4 hours a day for 4 years. That could breakdown to a couple of hours a night and full days on weekends. Millions of people spend just as much time watching TV, or reading, or playing Call of Duty. That's nothing particularly unusual or special about that amount of time. Back in the early days of World of Warcraft people would have seen 4 hours a night as light, casual gaming. :)

*looks nervously at time spent on HN*

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by crest »

vrykoul wrote: post #34

RDR2 was released in November of 2019 on Stadia. If he played every day, it would be about 5 hours a day. Assuming he took 2 days off a week: 152 weeks since release 152 * (5 days per week) = 760 days 24 * 760 = 18240 hours 6000 / 18240 = ~0.33 .33 * 24 = ~8 hours every day. That's not a game, that's a job.

"Professional" streamer?

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by dmix »

martincmartin wrote: post #39
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

You can't measure an addiction just by total hours invested in something.

That equals 2.4hrs/day, 16hrs/week since the game was released, which might be more indicative but still depends on the reset of their life obligations and what else they seek value from.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by Entinel »

slothtrop wrote: post #44
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

None of that is threatened with the loss of a virtual character in RD2.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make. If I had 6k hours invested in literally anything I'd be pretty upset with it being taken away.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by ZoomerCretin »

martincmartin wrote: post #39
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

Somehow I doubt your partner would say the same of you watching TV or using social media for 450 hours.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by PedroBatista »

Entinel wrote: post #30
PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

The key point here is 6k hours. The game has been on Stadia for 2 and a half years.

No one is attacking hobbies or video games, the argument was: The argument of playing 6k hours of RDR2 in 2 years being too much might have some merit.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by bass3l »

hotpotamus wrote: post #13
least wrote: post #3

I hadn't even considered this as a consequence of Stadia shutting down. I naively thought, "Well, everyone is getting refunded for everything they spent, so it's fine." Clearly I was wrong. Of course there are folks that have actual game saves that they're heavily invested in on the platform that aren't easily portable. I feel sorry for this person and hope that Google and its partners like Rockstar work together to…

I saw mention that you could get your save games out via Google Takeout, but I don't know if that's verified or if it would even be in a format that's usable to someone.

Unfortunately you can't, because Red Dead (((Online))) locks your account on the platform you play, his account on Stadia will simply be erased into oblivion.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by trimbo »

redeeman wrote: post #49
martincmartin wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

12 work-days of a hobby and your partner labels it an addiction thats divorce worthy? sounds pretty terrible. I strongly suspect he/she is probably spending atleast as much time on his/her hobby.

I think you meant 12 work weeks
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