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Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

> At what point does a hobby turn into an addition?

Why should something that unstresses, revitalizes and inspires you should be an addition.

With that logic, food is an addiction. Sleep. Rest. Even poetry and art.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

It sounds terrible, but losing his save could possibly be the thing that saves his life if this is true.

Assuming he played since the launch of RDR2 on Stadia then it's about 6 hours a day, and considering we are talking about a YouTuber it could be work.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

It's 4 hours a day for 4 years. That could breakdown to a couple of hours a night and full days on weekends. Millions of people spend just as much time watching TV, or reading, or playing Call of Duty. That's nothing particularly unusual or special about that amount of time. Back in the early days of World of Warcraft people would have seen 4 hours a night as light, casual gaming. :)

Stadia launched in November 2019, so not even 3 years ago.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

You can't measure an addiction just by total hours invested in something. That equals 2.4hrs/day, 16hrs/week since the game was released, which might be more indicative but still depends on the reset of their life obligations and what else they seek value from.

Yeah but isn't that a single player game ? Even if it had 100+ hours of gameplay, you'd have to repeat that so many times to get to 6000 hours

Very different from someone that plays video games a few hours every day

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

Anyone with a full-time job has spent about 8000 hours on that singular activity in the same timeframe. I'm not sure that tells us that what this guy is doing is healthy, but it does raise the question... is working the way we do healthy either?

It's certainly not healthy but I don't see the system changing until most of our lifetimes have already passed, making the question academic. Or perhaps we are not bold enough or ready for sacrifice in our commitment to finding alternatives.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

But BioShock is a great decision game. What are you talking about?

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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If I spend 6k hours coding a project and was making noise because I was about to have access to my source code taken away ... would you say i'm an addict?

You should make noise because, unless you signed some particular contract, the code is your intellectual property and it's illegal to just take it away from you. I bought Stadia and read the contract, I was under no illusion that I could export save files or progress to other platforms. You don't own the games you play, if you cared you'd buy from GoG.

It's not that far fetched. A lot of people rely on third party services to host and manage their source code.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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This is a risk of and why do you not pour your life into someone else's project. (without a commensurate return that you can own fully)

He chose (knowingly or unknowingly) to be meat for a giant machine. Now he wonders why he got ground up and spit out.

It's one thing to play a video game and end up grateful for having enjoyed and spent the time on a hobby, and walk away with good memories. It's another thing to end up begging/pleading to a soulless machine for their mercy and consideration.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games

He’s a streamer. He makes a living from playing that game. What’s your job? Let’s compare total value add.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone with a full-time job has spent about 8000 hours on that singular activity in the same timeframe. I'm not sure that tells us that what this guy is doing is healthy, but it does raise the question... is working the way we do healthy either?

I doubt you'll find many people here who will even consider what you're saying but it's really important. Basically the difference between living to work, and working to live, and how we should be mindful of balancing it all

The notion of work itself is strange. If you are autonomous in what you do, feel your mastery increasing as you go along, see your actions have an effect, and are well rewarded for it in terms of material wealth and social approval, few other things in life are going to compare. If you are missing most of these characteristics, it will daily torture.
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