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Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

From my perspective as a game developer, I won’t pass any normative judgement.

In a positivist view, those are hours not trying new games.

To reframe what other have already said, it is just as bad for the game industry as it is from a social perspective that people spend time this way.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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I hadn't even considered this as a consequence of Stadia shutting down. I naively thought, "Well, everyone is getting refunded for everything they spent, so it's fine." Clearly I was wrong. Of course there are folks that have actual game saves that they're heavily invested in on the platform that aren't easily portable. I feel sorry for this person and hope that Google and its partners like Rockstar work together to…

I saw mention that you could get your save games out via Google Takeout, but I don't know if that's verified or if it would even be in a format that's usable to someone.

It is mentioned in the article itself, it also implies that it is not useful for multiplayer saves.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

#34
RDR2 was released in November of 2019 on Stadia.

If he played every day, it would be about 5 hours a day.

Assuming he took 2 days off a week:

152 weeks since release

152 * (5 days per week) = 760 days

24 * 760 = 18240 hours

6000 / 18240 = ~0.33

.33 * 24 = ~8 hours every day.

That's not a game, that's a job.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

#35
post #17

5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

It's 4 hours a day for 4 years. That could breakdown to a couple of hours a night and full days on weekends. Millions of people spend just as much time watching TV, or reading, or playing Call of Duty. That's nothing particularly unusual or special about that amount of time. Back in the early days of World of Warcraft people would have seen 4 hours a night as light, casual gaming. :)

I see alot of people in my personal circle criticize gaming, but do the same watching TV/movies, reading books, etc.

One might think, well books are educational. You learn something from them. There's so many bestselling books out there written by so called "experts" that turn out to be totally wrong or mislead by giving a layman's explanation of research post book release, and 10-20 years later the same nonsense is being passed on from one generation to the next.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

#37
I haven't played RDR online, but I'm pretty surprised. I would have assumed it used your Rockstar account, not your Stadia account, and that you could use that same account on any platform.

On the other hand, this is what you have to accept as a possible outcome when you invest yourself in someone else's service. Stadia's existence has been shaky from day 1, so it's not like he couldn't have seen this coming.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

#38
post #3

I hadn't even considered this as a consequence of Stadia shutting down. I naively thought, "Well, everyone is getting refunded for everything they spent, so it's fine." Clearly I was wrong. Of course there are folks that have actual game saves that they're heavily invested in on the platform that aren't easily portable. I feel sorry for this person and hope that Google and its partners like Rockstar work together to…

I think Google's biggest flaw in this regard is their own denial of the pattern of shutting things down. If they just acknowledge that's how things go, they can prepare better off-ramps for people who adopted their product. Doing this to your users is a slap in the face because it shows no gratitude for the fact that those people took a chance on your product. They believed in it, and it's not their fault your projec…

Honestly they have the capital to take a position where they publicly state they aren't investing in the product anymore, they'll happily refund people money and work with studios to help users move to other platforms but they'll also keep the lights on for whomever wants to keep using it, unsupported.

Why they completely kill and bury entire products very quickly is sort of bizarre for a company their size.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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post #30

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game.

[I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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post #30

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

I don't beg for my hobbies, that sounds more like an addiction
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