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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by lupire »

9wzYQbTYsAIc wrote: post #157
yellow_lead wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that was a lie

After negative news, it’s pretty safe to assume thr opposite when PR / Marketing says something like “we wont be shutting down” or when a CEO says “there wont be any layoffs”. If you read between the lines, those kind of announcements can usually be a good indicator of the appropriate “time to adapt”, whether that be to prepare for a layoff or to start buying IP on a survivable platform.

How many times has MS said "Xbox is not shutting down."?

The corpo doth protest too much. If they have to say it, it has to be a lie.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by lupire »

kyrra wrote: post #241
yellow_lead wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that was a lie

Googler, opinions are my own. I don't work on Stadia. From what I saw, the Stadia team was working hard on product improvements and adding new games still. So a careful parsing of the sentence is that the Stadia team was still working towards the goals of expanding the service, as the shutdown decision wasn't made yet or told to the team yet.

"Stadia is not shutting down" admits no "careful parse.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by Sebb767 »

timsneath wrote: post #834
candiddevmike wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is keeping me from looking seriously at Flutter tbh. Go is safe, it has a community and ecosystem outside of Google, Flutter doesn't seem to be there yet.

(Disclosure: I lead PM/UX for Flutter & Dart.) For sure, anything that I could say along the lines of "we're not shutting Flutter down" might be taken as having overtones of the Baghdad Bob meme. And indeed, why should you trust my word? The reason you should feel confident to use Flutter is because it's strongly in our business interest to invest in it. Over 600,000 apps in the Play Store alone are already written u…

My honest condolences that you have to do damage control here to save your project after your employer did something stupid (again). I've been in this position, it's not great.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by lupire »

__david__ wrote: post #455
yellow_lead wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that was a lie

It depends on when they made the decision. Changing your mind doesn't mean you previously lied, it just means you were wrong. Lying needs intent.

This is an extremely dangerous attitude. Truth matters, not just whatever feels good.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by jmoak3 »

hotpotamus wrote: post #595
legohead wrote: post #505

I used Shadow [1] for a couple years. They basically give you a windows VM and you install whatever you want. All the other big players limited the games you could install, which was a deal breaker for me. I think there's 1 or 2 others that have a similar model to Shadow, but they are pay by the hour. Shadow was great, when they had a California datacenter (~20ms latency). I noticed zero lag most of the time. Once th…

Latency is the aspect of cloud gaming I'll never understand. There are literal physics based limits on how fast you can transmit a signal (and a lot more practical ones on top of those). I keep thinking that someone must have some secret sauce they've come up with, but unless Google or someone can invent faster light, I'm not sure what that would be. Obviously the closer you can get the compute to the screen, the bet…

20ms each way is 40ms, or 2.5 frames of lag if you’re playing at 60fps. Pretty noticeable.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by remram »

vyrotek wrote: post #43

Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

In July they had the gall to make fun of the rumor that it was getting shut down: https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1553080498938941440

Google killing products left and right is bad enough, this amount of lying is just unbearable. Google's lack of object permanence is probably the reason people didn't sign up for Stadia in the first place.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by tmpz22 »

bornfreddy wrote: post #675
Xeoncross wrote: post #604

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first reply to that tweet: "When you inevitably do shut down in a couple of months could you please just release Bluetooth drivers for the controller first? It's a good controller and I'd like to be able to use it." - https://twitter.com/josh_ross/status/1553465786634604544

I am guessing they didn't release the drivers?

I have empathy for their team on this topic. If they release bluetooth drivers they are committed to some minimal quality and compatibility standard and controller owners unaware of a larger OSS effort will be frustrated if it isn't actively maintained.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by lowbloodsugar »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #108
dekhn wrote: post #74

When I rejoined Google (working in the hardware division), my managers tried to get me to work on stadia and I refused (this was shortly before it launched). I looked at it, said "this won't be successful, and google will eventually get rid of it". My managers simply couldn't understand that. They said "the leadership thinks this will be successful and we should build it" and then I realized they were sheeple.

Welcome to every big company ever

Except some big companies manage to release products and keep them running forever.
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