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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by stephc_int13 »

welcome_dragon wrote: post #653
stephc_int13 wrote: post #154

Streaming is not sexy for gamedevs. We all know that latency is going to suffer. I don't understand the pain point they are trying to solve for end-users. Gamers are used to buy shiny new hardware to run their games. This is again a case of a solution looking for a problem.

Have you tried it though? It's so much better than any other streaming game service from Xbox or PSN When cyberpunk came out, it was crashing everywhere except the stadia version. I've rarely had performance issues with a stadia game, and even playing over 4g is pretty good. The technology almost works like magic here. Now if only there had been more games on it and if people didn't dismiss it before it even launched…

Oh, this idea has been around basically forever, it will come again, I have no doubts about it.

Stadia was not the first attempt; it won't be the last one.

People have been trying to build perpetual motion devices for centuries, some still are.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by johnnyanmac »

exolymph wrote: post #531
endtime wrote: post #418

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mostly agree with you, but I downvoted your comment because > We devoted an entire month of resources to this project and thought that was enough! ...is not just wildly inaccurate, but also disrespectful to the people who spent years working on it.

It's exaggeration for rhetorical effect, an extremely common stylistic device.

when everyone is "exaggerating" about how Google shuts every single thing under the sun down, it ceases to seem like a joke.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by endgame »

nvarsj wrote: post #806
ren_engineer wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

I wonder if Google even realises, like at Pichai level, how much this hurts them. I’m fairly sure it’s at least one important piece as to why GCP is struggling to gain market share. Who in their right mind would depend on a Google product for critical business functions at this point.

https://steve-yegge.medium.com/dear-google-cloud-your-deprec... makes exactly this argument.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by xtracto »

dougmwne wrote: post #198

I am more entertained by this than I should be. Back when Stadia launched I was in a Reddit thread saying that the blatant double-dip business model of subscriptions + purchase stunk and that I had no faith in Google to not shut this storefront down shortly. I was immediately roasted by a flock of obvious astroturfers telling me that this was an absolutely serious move by Google to dominate the console games market a…

This [1] guy got it right to the year (3 years ago when Stadia started):

>It also doesn't help that it's from Google. They've lost a lot of good will in the last couple of years and honestly most people expect Stadia to be EOL'd in 24-36 months once Google gets bored with it.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/e1l9j4/comment/f8ru...

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by johnnyanmac »

solardev wrote: post #816
jamesgeck0 wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everyone else: No way, it's a PITA to port to, and knowing Google, they're going to sunset it soon. I’ve seen a few developers (Ryan Gordon, IIRC?) saying that the Stadia SDK was actually great. It was basically just a bog standard Vulkan/Linux environment with much fewer unpleasant surprises than consoles.

VS GeForce Now, where you check a box saying "I want my game to be streamable" and then... you're done. https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/cloudgaming

Yup... until one day the game is taken off the story and that checkbox removed. Big business is rough.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by Rapzid »

faefox wrote: post #242

Feels like the writing was on the wall almost as soon as they launched. It seems telling to me that Stadia couldn't get any traction even during one of the most protracted GPU shortages/crypto manias in history; connectivity requirements and lag issues aside, I think a lot of gamers just aren't interested in outsourcing the hardware side of things the way these corporations might expect. Building and maintaining your…

Just look at the popularity of 144-240hz displays and eSports. The fact the 5800x3d even exists to eek you out 20 extra fps at 1080p to get you from 150 to 175..

Cloud gaming with its latency? Some people not noticing isn't going to cut it.

PS5 is hugely popular and perpetually sold old. So the console market is not hurting either..

The market has spoken and it's not interested in cloud gaming services with its downsides.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by xtracto »

scottyah wrote: post #92
n8cpdx wrote: post #25

At what point does working for Google (on anything released after 2008) go from being prestigious to embarrassing?

Why are so many of you here so bitter against this company?

I am not a fanboy, have never been a fanboy and never cared about the "do no evil" marketing motto or any other Google crap. I am bitter against Google because it plainly sucks. Their products suck, they have "soft monopolies" and they have used them to Embrace Extend and Extinguish any alternatives. They are what Microsoft was in the 1990s-2000s. If you are young enough to remember the 90s and 00s Microsoft you will understand.

Note that I not only hate Google, I hate Google, Apple, Facebook and the current state of the web. I guess that makes me an old fart.

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