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> Question: could Russian disinformation have played a role in germanys policy here? As a German, no, that was quite voluntary. People like me completely agreed. I only woke up on 24 February. I'm from East Germany, speak some Russian, and have been to Russia a few times, and to Ukraine too, for months actually. I did not care about the Krim annexation either. I think because it was peaceful, and because I did not se…

I am Brazillian but been following a lot of the events in Europe for a while. Something a lot people miss, is why Russia is doing what they are doing, many assume they just want to conquer Ukraine "just because", or that it is a purely cultural issue, or that it is Putin personal design. The major point of contention here is that USA and allies (including NATO and the non-NATO members of Five Eyes) have proven themse…

> It ALMOST worked, but the peace talks in march ended being cancelled by the Ukrainian side.

This is a Russian talking point that has been getting spread around the internet lately. Those talks failed because Putin refused to negotiate on a few key items, and it quickly became apparent that he was trying to use those talks to buy time to regroup his forces after the initial invasion. But lately, right wing leaning news sources are now taking a quote from Boris Johnson out of context to try and frame the failure of those talks as some Western conspiracy to prolong the war.

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Ok so you explained your love affair with Russia. Thank you for that, very insightful and courageous. But why the hate of nuclear? Was there a lot of propaganda in the media how dangerous it is? I really don’t understand it. It gives clean energy independence almost for free!

Germans particularly have a lot of good reason to dislike nuclear weapons . If the Soviet Union had ever sent tanks through the Fulda Gap, NATO would have dropped a lot of tactical nukes on Germany to stop it. They had plans for it all drawn up, weapon systems invented specifically for this, etc. NATO and the Soviets were both planning to actually continue fighting through a nuclear war. Those in power viewed a nucle…

This is beyond illogical.

Funny enough, having nuclear weapons is the best way BAR NONE to avoid becoming a nuclear (or any other kind of) battlefield.

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This place started to think in memes I feel. Every issue comes with the automated arguments, the same ones every time. If the topic is energy someone must write the "they shouldn't have closed those Nuclear power plants, silly environmentalist". Anyway, France is full blown nuclear state and they are having energy issues too, because as it turns out nuclear power plants require long regular maintenance periods. Maybe…

Thank you! Agree with all of it except >Maybe EU wanted to have Russia as a reliable petrostate as an alternative to the USA so they can do their thing without USA? The decision to rely on Russia was made when USA was a net energy importer, with some dependence on natural gas from Canada, and terrible dependence on oil from whoever could offer any. To add to that, nuclear was phased out to a large degree because it g…

French nuclear reactor can vary their power +-80% in 30min (article in french https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suivi_de_charge)

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The people are fed up with dangerously incompetent leadership, who literally laughed when warned to not be dependent on Russia for energy. It's not a meaningless culture war. The loss of energy means lower standard of living at best and mass death and famine at worst.

> The people are fed up with dangerously incompetent leadership When thinking of politicians, Intelligence is not an attribute which comes naturally to my mind. Yet the absence of intelligence in karge swaths of green politicians is striking. Im specifically talking about the German green movement, not generalising.

Like being inteligent enough to prolong nuclear reactor runtimes, signing LNG deals with the UAE, fillong up gas reservoirs faster than anticipated, pushing for military aide for Ukraine, figuring out fallback plans for potential gas shortages?

Yeah, absolutely stupid things to do in the current situation.

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Location? Germany has huge amounts of wind, especially in offshore. Your own map even shows this. We also have plenty of solar, enough that the conservatives introduced a solar installation LIMIT to keep fossil fuel and nuclear competitive. As for storage, with large enough over-capacity it's really easy to retrofit old coal plants to work off head capacitors, and we have plenty of those. It's just no good if there i…

The idea that this is just a matter of political will is nonsensical in the extreme, it's impossible to understand how anyone can believe this except via massive propaganda. Here's a graph of German solar/wind power production: https://energy-charts.info/charts/power/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&... Notice how it frequently drops to near zero . For example the morning of the 22nd where total wind+solar production in Germany w…

You accuse other of irrationality, yet you prop up a straw-man that's been debunked over and over again.

Nobody argues that renewables deliver peak power all of the time. The goal is to have enough capacity and intermediary storage to be able to deliver constant peak power with both combined.

The current economic situation would be much better had we spend all our money on renewables and storage instead of nuclear and gas, which ultimately end up fueling the very regimes that give us trouble e.g. saudi arabia, iran, russia, instead conservatives implemented arbitrary constraints like the solar cap and maximum wind farm distance.

Solar is already the cheapest form of energy per watt produced, investing into any other technology than the cheapest and most sustainable one is what's irrational.

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Honest question. How did you get to the logical conclusion that Russia is the most likely party that bombed Nordstream?

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> Now, this is the internet, so surely there will be plenty of people in this topic willing to disbelieve their governments.

Can you even imagine? Degenerates who don’t trust their own governments? Verräter.

Being mildly skeptical of one government is... fine... but two who are allies? Eight who are allies? The official Nato position? Surely, at some point they all become infallible.

Don’t discredit your own fatherland, mensch.

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"Russia's decision to halt gas supplies via Europe's key supply route in the wake of the Ukraine conflict has increased the chances of power shortages." Europe's decision, Germany especially, to be reliant on Russia for energy when they could have not shut down nuclear plants and built more.

Russia and Germany have been at war for centuries. The last few decades when their economies became co-dependent was a blissful peace. Beware the long term consequences of buiding a new wall between them.

Sorry but from the perspective of Central Europe, the times when Russian and Germany are friendly, have been the most dreadful. We barely avoided it this time.

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post #74

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This place started to think in memes I feel. Every issue comes with the automated arguments, the same ones every time. If the topic is energy someone must write the "they shouldn't have closed those Nuclear power plants, silly environmentalist". Anyway, France is full blown nuclear state and they are having energy issues too, because as it turns out nuclear power plants require long regular maintenance periods. Maybe…

> Anyway, France is full blown nuclear state ... ... with a fuel cycle that goes through a breeder in Seversk, Russia ... with no long term plan for low radioactive waste and contaminated equipment ... with almost no uranium deposits worth exploiting left as is true for all of europa

No, what is sent to Seversk is not just the spent fuel, but also radioactive material that was used during the treatment of the spent fuel.

No, the fuel cycle doesn't depend on Seversk, the contract from EDF was signed in 2018 (and EDF says that nothing was sent yet)

No, this is not even the fuel cycle, Orano signed a contract with Rosatom so that they could send spent URT and Rosatom uses it for their own reactors. Literally selling spent fuel (instead of burying it)

No, you are lying, there are plans both for long term storage (Cigeo) and for low radioactive waste which the Andra handles. (https://www.irsn.fr/FR/connaissances/Installations_nucleaire...)

No, you are lying once again. The uranium deposits are not worth exploiting because it is currently cheaper to get mines in say, Niger, but Europe still has large potential mining sites, and extracting it from lignite is easy.

So, no, your sources are Greenpeace and are lying.

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The solution is not obvious, it's obvious only to zealots. It's kind of obvious that the solution is in PHV and wind energy but you can fight it to death with people who would claim that it's obvious that the solution is Nuclear energy. This is not a good discussion, this is fanatics fighting. Anytime someone suggest simple solution to a big problem %99.9 of the time they don't actually have a simple and obvious solu…

Although I think Smartgrids and all technology close-by including usage counters would really make a difference. No matter if you're for renewables or even Nuclear. Considering how much energy goes to waste because of inefficient usage. Every 60W laptop has an elaborate power management but multi kW homes aren't even close. Still that's just one building block obviously...

Increasing complexity decreases resiliency and reliability.

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post #74

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This place started to think in memes I feel. Every issue comes with the automated arguments, the same ones every time. If the topic is energy someone must write the "they shouldn't have closed those Nuclear power plants, silly environmentalist". Anyway, France is full blown nuclear state and they are having energy issues too, because as it turns out nuclear power plants require long regular maintenance periods. Maybe…

HN doesn’t think in memes more than before. It’s just you who percieve commenters to be NPCs because the same things keep getting upvoted. > Maybe EU wanted to have Russia as a reliable petrostate as an alternative to the USA so they can do their thing without USA? Considering the EU’s actions since the war started we can safely discard this theory.

Yeah, because the war Ukraine was no valid reason to revise whatever plan you had before...
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