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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

JJMcJ wrote: post #621
ren_engineer wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

> governments get serious about ad regulation Or companies pull back on Internet advertising. The unknown unknown is the creation of a new advertising method. I doubt that any newspaper in 1990 thought that this thing called the Internet was going to all but destroy their ad business within twenty years.

Internet advertising isn't going anywhere.

Google's ad product, however, is truly horrendous and exists only because it's perceived as "too big to fail".

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by drusepth »

This is mostly unfortunate just because of how far ahead Stadia's tech is in front of its competitors. I hope Luna, GFN, and/or xCloud improve a bit more by the time January rolls around, but also hope maybe an exodus of users from Stadia might provide more incentive to do so.

The full game+hardware refunds are nice. Expected, but I would have also been unsurprised to end up disappointed with no refunds at all.

I still think cloud gaming will be a huge part of the future of gaming.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by bornfreddy »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #597
ren_engineer wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

> Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. The thing with x amount of products failing is true. Doesn't matter if you're an indie hacker or Google. It's been shown by giant after giant releasing products and them failing. Doesn't matter what industry they're in either. That's why so many corporations just buy new products lines. They get…

Meh. There is a reason you don't hear about MS shutting down services, or Apple, or Facebook... Failing or not, you can still pivot them until they succeed. It is just Google that is shutting down everything that doesn't grow huge fast.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by zorked »

nailer wrote: post #412
Rebelgecko wrote: post #139

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Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

BTW when Cyberpunk was released and didn't work, and PS Store / Steam / XBox gave refunds, Stadia was the only platform that refused refunds.

It worked well in Stadia.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by franczesko »

Truly wasted potential. As I wrote a while ago:

"One of the biggest problems Google has is that they excel at engineering, but they lack proper marketing or business talent. Stadia is really cool, yet the company did nothing to attract players and grow the platform. I'm wondering how many of their products were killed just because of the fact, that there was no plan beyond letting it out in the market"

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by foobiekr »

freeopinion wrote: post #552
ren_engineer wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

It's curious to me that there hasn't been an evolution in re-exit strategies. You want to get bought by Google, then sold by Google. Why don't we hear about something getting sold off by Google instead of just shut down? Is it just a given that if Google can't make it work, nobody can?

Dependencies on google-only stack plus many of the things they build aren’t actually financially viable.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by kossTKR »

This isn't just incompetence, it's a PR smokescreen that fulfilled its purpose, to smokescreen the ad and surveillance machine that has been Google Corp right from the beginning.

ShadowPC has already proved that gaming over fiber+wifi is very viable but it was never googles project - the project was yet another toy-thing that people will think google is "doing", when they are actually an ad and surveillance company.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by apozem »

kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #473
coldpie wrote: post #137

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I remember every single article when they first announced contained at least a few sentences wondering when Google would shut Stadia down. Because it was a Google project, Stadia was doomed from the start.

It was always strange that Google would decide to dabble in the brutally expensive and competitive games market, of all things.

"Brutally expensive and competitive" is right. Look at what Microsoft had to do after losing the Xbox One / PS4 generation. They've spent almost a decade building out a radically new subscription service. That's before the $100+ billion they've dropped on studios for content to fill out said service.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by sfmike »

krossitalk wrote: post #435
ConceptJunkie wrote: post #408

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This is Google we're talking about. They shut everything down eventually.

Does anyone think we'll ever see the sunsetting of something huge like YouTube or GMail?

Nope because both are extensions of ads. Both are bought and managed within google ads manager. Basically a product lasts at google ifnm it can reach ad placement scale. Docs is useful for it's data and to help personalization of ads so it stays. Most of the tool shutdowns couldn't have ads or didn't assist ads effectiveness.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by shadowgovt »

antisthenes wrote: post #437
shadowgovt wrote: post #61

I actually got Cyberpunk 2077 specifically on Stadia so I could play the meta-game of "Can I win Cyberpunk before the unaccountable mega-corpo revokes my access to Cyberpunk?" I will be losing that game.

Seems like you ended up playing a more realistic version of Cyberpunk 2022 instead.

After the Bio-Crash of 2020 me and my chooms had to make our own fun.
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