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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by lrae »

jedberg wrote: post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

> Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

One of the reasons why they launched and bought studios for exclusive content. Which they then shut down early, only a bit over a year after launch of Stadia (?).

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by donatj »

Stadia owner here, the entire concept of a streaming game system where you still have to buy the games is just weird. I used it for a couple weeks and went back to my Xbox.

To succeed, it really needed to be just a gamepass-esq model.

The thing I found really impressive is that the latency felt better over the actual internet than streaming my Xbox from another room.

It's also super impressive that the headphone jack in the controller's audio seemed perfectly in sync with the video from the Chromecast despite the controller operating over Wifi. The video and audio streams are presumably completely separate, originating from Google servers.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by julienreszka »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #140

If you are looking for an alternative, I'm currently using shadow.net for my games, and so far the ping is decent (I do have fiber though). Mind you, I'm into single player titles, I wouldn't advice trying out overwatch or lol on this. But for 30 euros a month, I got a machine with a full functional windows system and a good GPU from the tip of my laptop. Not perfect, but it does the job for me.

I think you meant shadow.tech

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by onion2k »

MrWiffles wrote: post #252
snthd wrote: post #29

Google need to open source and unlock the controllers - otherwise they just created a mountain of e-waste.

You know, this gave me an idea: I'd love to see legislation that states that when a company the size of Google, Microsoft, etc. launches a product like this, then kills it off, that they MUST open source the proprietary parts inside of it. Not just for hardware like controller firmware etc. but also for software they used to create it. Obviously the games themselves in the case are IP owned by other firms so that wou…

they MUST open source the proprietary parts inside of it

This would have no impact on anything. If they had to share IP after shutting it down they'd just restructure the business so that Stadia licensed IP from Google Streaming Gaming Technology LLP, and do the all the real work in that absolutely-definitely-a-separate-company-look-the-logo-is-a-different-shape part of Alphabet instead.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by unity1001 »

ethbr0 wrote: post #185
shadowgovt wrote: post #61

I actually got Cyberpunk 2077 specifically on Stadia so I could play the meta-game of "Can I win Cyberpunk before the unaccountable mega-corpo revokes my access to Cyberpunk?" I will be losing that game.

I am impressed by the depth of your gaming!

He makes up his own achievements. Tough, real-world achievements...

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by gbasp »

dougmwne wrote: post #198

I am more entertained by this than I should be. Back when Stadia launched I was in a Reddit thread saying that the blatant double-dip business model of subscriptions + purchase stunk and that I had no faith in Google to not shut this storefront down shortly. I was immediately roasted by a flock of obvious astroturfers telling me that this was an absolutely serious move by Google to dominate the console games market a…

> I was immediately roasted by a flock of obvious astroturfers

I was a true believer in Stadia for years and still am when it comes to cloud gaming. I was never paid a cent by Google to my knowledge (although they are refunding my purchases so I appreciate that).

That said, unfortunately you are correct that Google is a bloated rotting mess. The worst part is that Stadia was a legit good product.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by chrsig »

9wzYQbTYsAIc wrote: post #157
yellow_lead wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that was a lie

After negative news, it’s pretty safe to assume thr opposite when PR / Marketing says something like “we wont be shutting down” or when a CEO says “there wont be any layoffs”. If you read between the lines, those kind of announcements can usually be a good indicator of the appropriate “time to adapt”, whether that be to prepare for a layoff or to start buying IP on a survivable platform.

As a general rule, I tend to invert any sentence any manager ever gives me.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by ignoramous »

Animats wrote: post #210
coldpie wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember every single article when they first announced contained at least a few sentences wondering when Google would shut Stadia down. Because it was a Google project, Stadia was doomed from the start.

Google only knows how to do one business. Ads. Any Google product that isn't ad-supported dies, with very few exceptions. Note that Google Cloud Services lose money. "Google Cloud is now approaching a $16 billion annual revenue run rate, but Google's ad business is likely to subsidize it for the foreseeable future."[1] AWS makes money in that business, but Google does not. So, don't depend on Google Cloud for anythin…

I think folks can finally accurately model what Google is going to kill... GCP surely wouldn't be on that list? ;)

> You can pretty accurately model what they will and won't do with this one unusual insight that they're a business... But "It's a Google product" is a weak signal about whether it's going to get killed, and there are many stronger signals. Let me know when they kill Ads and Cloud.

-u/geofft https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30353025

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by paxys »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #139
jedberg wrote: post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

I would 100% have signed up and bought games if I was assured that I'd get my money back if the service was shut down in under, say, 3 years.
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