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On Mr. Beast and being alone in a circle for 100 days

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Re: On Mr. Beast and being alone in a circle for 100 days

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Post by LanceH »

citizenkeen wrote: post #63
bb123 wrote: post #29

This blogger is acting like traditional network television has never mentally tortured people for our viewing pleasure. Have they never seen an episode of Hell's Kitchen, Dr Phil, I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here or Big Brother? Basically the entire reality TV genre is based on that premise. Edit: Seeing as they mention Joe Rogan, Fear Factor is another great example of a reality TV version of basically the same th…

Fox had a reality shoe where they just tortured people for money. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_(TV_series)

And a lot of people look at these "torture" situations as a battle of wills. Nobody is truly being tortured and they aren't really in a dangerous situation (generally). Fear factor is a mix of scary and disgusting, with an audience watching and thinking, "yes, no, yes, not for all the money in the world, maybe, yes".

Mr Beast isn't exactly "bum fights".

Re: On Mr. Beast and being alone in a circle for 100 days

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Post by warent »

isitmadeofglass wrote: post #139
strken wrote: post #35

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I'm not that badly off and have never watched a Mr. Beast video prior to this. I would gladly stay within a 300ft circle for 100 days while some dude blasted clown noises at me in return for $500k. There's a library, a garden, some exercise bands, stationery, and 3000cal/day of food. I did 21 days isolation in an apartment at the start of the pandemic, which is 20% of the way there except with less floorspace. There'…

Sure, people enter in willingly. And you’d be able to find quite a lot of Poot people who’d do really shitty stuff and let you be extremely shitty to them for money. But so what? He’s still kidnapping and terrorizing poor people and excusing it by paying them off. And Better yet he’s doing so for profit, but he’s effectively have them sign a contract that means they don’t get paid if he gets them to break. It screams…

You can dislike his work, but FYI you cannot repurpose the word "kidnapping" like this. First, it's a lie. Second, it diminishes the traumatic experience of real kidnapping survivors.

Stop repurposing real words and making a joke of real experiences to satisfy for your own emotional position.

Don't bother quoting the definition here and bending around the truth to further your distortion.

Re: On Mr. Beast and being alone in a circle for 100 days

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Post by astura »

bhhaskin wrote: post #26
idontwantthis wrote: post #22

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I use an extension called click bait remover that replaces thumbnails with an actual frame from the video. Also normalizes capitalization.

That sounds like a great extension, but at the same time I just block those channels that engage in that. None of them make any content worth consuming.

How do you know if a channel has content worth consuming if you block it without watching it?

Literally hundreds of good channels worth consuming have thumbnails like that. I find it off-putting too, but videos are severely punished for not having them.

This is the channel mentioned in the sibling comment (Linus Tech Tips) - https://youtu.be/DzRGBAUz5mA

Re: On Mr. Beast and being alone in a circle for 100 days

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Post by hackerlight »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #179
hackerlight wrote: post #136

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> To hypothetically say, well, sure it's unkind and disrespectful and an assault on their dignity, but it's not unethical to do to make a buck or a laugh -- what is the point of "ethics", then, exactly? But is it unkind? You're giving them a benefit (+$) and taking a cost (-dignity), and they've calculated that $ > dignity. Assuming their calculation was accurate, aren't you actually being kind? You are increasing th…

Would you offer that deal to a family member or close friend in need of money? Why not?

Definitely not, it would make me sad to subject them to that. I'd also feel pretty bad if I got them them to clean my house for money if they were in need. But that doesn't mean it's unethical, does it?

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Post by [deleted] »

astura wrote: post #165
antasvara wrote: post #92

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Some people fundamentally have an issue with the idea of making money off of what essentially amounts to embarrassment or (depending on the challenge) light mental torture. Mr. Beast's motives are irrelevant if that's the belief you're operating under.

In that case singling out Mr. Beast makes no sense, there's reality TV shows which are much more extreme in embarrassment and torture than any Mr. Beast video.

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Re: On Mr. Beast and being alone in a circle for 100 days

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Post by FumblingBear »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #80
bb123 wrote: post #29

This blogger is acting like traditional network television has never mentally tortured people for our viewing pleasure. Have they never seen an episode of Hell's Kitchen, Dr Phil, I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here or Big Brother? Basically the entire reality TV genre is based on that premise. Edit: Seeing as they mention Joe Rogan, Fear Factor is another great example of a reality TV version of basically the same th…

> This blogger is acting like traditional network television has never mentally tortured people for our viewing pleasure. Have they never seen an episode of Hell's Kitchen, Dr Phil, I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here or Big Brother? Basically the entire reality TV genre is based on that premise. There's also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasubi#Denpa_Sh%C5%8Dnen_teki_... Although I guess Japan has always sort o…

That's definitely the show that came to mind when it comes to the depravity of torturing the victims for a pittance.

What a truly tragic story...

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Post by Orothrim »

snowwrestler wrote: post #143
M4v3R wrote: post #115

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Because at the end of the day you need to obtain food, clothing, shelter and other necessities to even survive to the next day, not even mentioning doing anything for pleasure. Either through labor of your own, or by doing labor to earn money to buy these for you possibly your family. Thinking that "human beings are born worthy of a happy peaceful safe life" is childish - the world doesn't owe us anything, and if we…

It’s a challenging time in human history because we’re now capable of producing enough food, clothing, shelter, and other necessities for every human on Earth. That will only get more true as population growth slows while innovation continues to drive productivity improvements. But we’re still culturally in the mindset you’re describing: that we must each individually wrest life out of the wilderness day by day. As a…

We aren't inventing more and more complex ways of forcing that reality to still exist. That reality does still exist, it's close to not existing, maybe only another 300-400 years, but it's still 100% true right now. You are ignoring the massive logistical challenge of getting all those things to all those people and spreading all that knowledge to get production happening. Additionally, our current system is built on a 100 leaning towers of pisa. Look at Ukraine, it gets invaded and our global supply of food is massively impacted, many people are going to starve and freeze to death over the war in Ukraine this winter who have never set foot in Ukraine or Russia.

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Post by CaptArmchair »

ryan93 wrote: post #188
CaptArmchair wrote: post #146

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For the exact same reason why we teach little kids to throw their litter in the garbage bin instead of the ground, and hope that it will stick into adulthood: a range of values and ideas that display a due sense of caring and compassion.

People don't want a world utterly suffused with politics. You are doing your movement harm by expecting it.

I didn't know parenting was suffused by politics, but apparently here we are.

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Post by giantg2 »

jerojero wrote: post #170
flerchin wrote: post #141

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The folks working on farms, few though they are in the modern world, deserve compensation. What will the people not working on the farm do to deserve the fruits of their labor? Whatever it will be, will be work. Same for the folks building houses, and all the rest of modern infrastructure that we depend upon to live.

I don't think anyone is saying we shouldn't compensate people doing labour that is required. I think the problem is that we don't really have a societal model that is doing its hardest to cover these needs first before other ones. If we used the money we spend on, say, entertainment or high-end mobile phone industry on R&D regarding farms and food yield and distribution we might see lots more advancements in this are…

"If we used the money we spend on, say, entertainment or high-end mobile phone industry on R&D regarding farms and food yield and distribution we might see lots more advancements in this area."

There are massive sums invested in agricultural R&D. Some of this does include a focus on poorer markets. We also heavily subsidize many crops to be competitive on the global market, thus exporting to poorer nations (overall that might be a bad thing, stunting their economic growth).

Re: On Mr. Beast and being alone in a circle for 100 days

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Post by criley2 »

pjc50 wrote: post #38

> "Whenever I watch these videos I’m awed and scared at the lengths to which humans in the twenty-first century will go to slurp up the drips of unimaginable wealth that the algorithm leaks out through Mr. Beast." That's it, isn't it? It's the exact opposite of dignity of labour: it's compensation for degradation. The "voluntary" part is just highlighting how willing people are to trade in unnecessary misery for the…

"The "voluntary" part is just highlighting how willing people are to trade in unnecessary misery for the entertainment of the comfortable."

Aye comrade, aye.

You say Mr Beast, I say Capitalism.

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