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Re: AWS us-west-2 issues

#71

It's crazy to me how long it takes Amazon to notify users that there is even an issue. I think it took 15 minutes for them to acknowledge an issue, thats a lot of time for our services.

That's because it's a political issue inside AWS. They have the technology to report it automatically, but there's a strong pressure not to post "green-i" or yellow or red, because those things impact SLA payments. So if there's any way they can spin it as not an outage they will try not to post it.

Can confirm this, it's political. It's always great seeing the "rationality" for not doing the right thing. After the 3 outages last December, I can remember a certain person in a certain global outage slack channel laughing at customers who weren't "resilient" enough to withstand the outage. Then AWS focused a resiliency campaign to document all those customers risks, as if AWS's own poorly designed system wasn't the cause for peoples inability to fail over. Glad I'm out of that place, it's super toxic these days.

Re: AWS us-west-2 issues

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> as far as not getting out, any lock unable to be unlocked from inside seems like something should not be allowed to be made. ever. This would vary by jurisdiction, but locks without an unlock lever are usually prohibited by the fire code.

interesting. my back door has a deadbolt requiring a key on both sides. ..it's an old house.

Why have you left it like that? Yeah it's against fire codes, but for a very good reason: it's incredibly unsafe.

Re: AWS us-west-2 issues

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I participated in multiple sla penalty payments requests on the customer side and never once we even discussed status page color

I participated in many status page color discussions and we always discussed sla. Shrug

You mean on the AWS/service provider side? I've also participated in internal incident response on the service provider side and we again made SLA refund decisions based on actual customer impact not our status page. But then again we diligently update our status pages so there's that.

Re: AWS us-west-2 issues

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Could any of you clarify to me why do we have "Edge" domain rather than a specific region?

Yeah, you can select "edge" for some resources (API Gateway and Lambda are two that come to mind) which just means it's located in all regions plus some additional "edge" infrastructure that isn't available as a region. AWS puts some restrictions on edge resources since there isn't enough capacity or full-region functionality.

Usually you pick this for stuff that is CDN oriented and front a regional service with that.

Re: AWS us-west-2 issues

#78

It's crazy to me how long it takes Amazon to notify users that there is even an issue. I think it took 15 minutes for them to acknowledge an issue, thats a lot of time for our services.

I continue to be irritated that services that consistently return errors are characterized as "increased error rates" or "increased latency". They seem to use those phrases for any kind of outage.

Re: AWS us-west-2 issues

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https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/ My Roomba isn't working!!! hahahaha!

I guess when Skynet becomes self aware we can just wait for an AWS outage and then bulldoze the terminators into the landfill

We should start practicing with the Full Self Driving cars getting OTA updates

Re: AWS us-west-2 issues

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People, I've just started setting up API GW and deploying my code to another region. Rest assured the outage will normalize itself before I finish migrating. ETA: 15min-ish

Did I say 15 minutes? Actually, it depends .

The first rule of publishing ETAs for updates is to triple the estimate. Be the hero that finishes before the published time vs finishing after! The second rule of ETAs is don't specifiy a time.

I'm still amazed at the number of cults that place a specific date on the return of the savior, and even more by the people that go along with the rescheduling. The fact that I'm still waiting in Dallas for JFK's return is irritating. /s

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