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Re: Show HN: Keep track of earning expenses better than excel sheets

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Post by milkshakes »

kingsidharth wrote: post #8
VonLipwig wrote: post #7

-- EDIT -- [ To give these messages context. This comment could have been construed to say something else. I said 'what makes your app worthless is this' after taking about how he describes a lack of technical info and before I talk about the FAQ. I later updated this line to make it clearer. I should have added an edit note but didn't. I apologise. I just added the edit note and this blurb at the beginning to give t…

Being a designer I do not get the hang of what gem went in this app. SO yeah that's the first part. I do not know how this makes the app worthless. Honestly? Designer doesn't know what goes behind it so app is worthless. Data is not encrypted because shipping a MVP was the main goal till now. But it's on the list yes. Follow up does not say sensitive data. Follow up says if you're data is so interesting that everyone…

welcome to HN. i personally think "worthless" might be just a bit rude but the H does stand for hacker, so naturally the audience would be interested in the technology you employ to keep their data safe.

Re: Show HN: Keep track of earning expenses better than excel sheets

#12

Post by kingsidharth »

milkshakes wrote: post #11
kingsidharth wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being a designer I do not get the hang of what gem went in this app. SO yeah that's the first part. I do not know how this makes the app worthless. Honestly? Designer doesn't know what goes behind it so app is worthless. Data is not encrypted because shipping a MVP was the main goal till now. But it's on the list yes. Follow up does not say sensitive data. Follow up says if you're data is so interesting that everyone…

welcome to HN. i personally think "worthless" might be just a bit rude but the H does stand for hacker, so naturally the audience would be interested in the technology you employ to keep their data safe.

Yeah even after 400+ days on HN. I fail to understand why Designers are not just respectable :|

Re: Show HN: Keep track of earning expenses better than excel sheets

#13

Post by kingsidharth »

rollercoaster wrote: post #10

Since this post sounds like pubic beta/self marketing, You should provide a couple of ready accounts for users to try this out.. i dont want to give up my email just to see the innards for your brain spill!

For that reason we did not use email double opt-in.

You can use test@testing.com or whatever.

In case you are wondering why not just a login to use? because sign-up process is important part of the whole experience. When I ask for feedback, I would like feedback about it as "whole" not just part.

Maybe I think it's an important part because I am a designer. But I am all ears if you have a stronger reason.

Re: Show HN: Keep track of earning expenses better than excel sheets

#15

Post by kingsidharth »

Deutscher wrote: post #14

What does your site offer over Mint (which is free)?

From FAQ: (though it's about automation, but goes same for overall vision)

  Why don't you automate it? Like Mint.com etc?
  That's not our purpose. When you consciously recall where 
  you spent money and document it. It has a different effect. 
  That's the aim of the app.
Expanding on it: While building Accountant, I had one thin in mind. Why look at what you did after a month? Why not look at it on-the-go? The only way I could think of was to consciously put the data.

Example: End up spending 1000 bucks on DVD rentals and then regret. Or know when you're spending the 500th buck and stop. Just a lame example but presents the use case.

Re: Show HN: Keep track of earning expenses better than excel sheets

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Post by VonLipwig »

kingsidharth wrote: post #8
VonLipwig wrote: post #7

-- EDIT -- [ To give these messages context. This comment could have been construed to say something else. I said 'what makes your app worthless is this' after taking about how he describes a lack of technical info and before I talk about the FAQ. I later updated this line to make it clearer. I should have added an edit note but didn't. I apologise. I just added the edit note and this blurb at the beginning to give t…

Being a designer I do not get the hang of what gem went in this app. SO yeah that's the first part. I do not know how this makes the app worthless. Honestly? Designer doesn't know what goes behind it so app is worthless. Data is not encrypted because shipping a MVP was the main goal till now. But it's on the list yes. Follow up does not say sensitive data. Follow up says if you're data is so interesting that everyone…

You should read what I said more carefully.

I said it is worrying that the app has got this far and you do not know more about it. Your post sounded like you know little about the technical side of the application. This might not be the case and if is I apologise. I feel if there is a start up with 2 people. Both should have a good idea of what the site is built on and what technology stack you are using. You don't need to be a developer to know this stuff.

I said your app is worthless because of your FAQ. You effectively say you have access to all data I put in and if I have any sensitive data don't bother. I feel my financial data is sensitive so why bother? This is the key question.

It is how you come across in your FAQ which greatly devalues your application.

Re: Show HN: Keep track of earning expenses better than excel sheets

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Post by abcd_f »

kingsidharth wrote: post #12
milkshakes wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

welcome to HN. i personally think "worthless" might be just a bit rude but the H does stand for hacker, so naturally the audience would be interested in the technology you employ to keep their data safe.

Yeah even after 400+ days on HN. I fail to understand why Designers are not just respectable :|

> Designers are not just respectable

That would be "Designers living in vaccum."

You need to decide if you are a designer or a co-founder, and if you are owning the product or merely contributing to it. Because designers shouldn't be making public comments on product privacy policies.

Re: Show HN: Keep track of earning expenses better than excel sheets

#18

Post by abcd_f »

kingsidharth wrote: post #3
duck wrote: post #2

You need to add a pricing page (or put it on the homepage) so people understand what they get for free and what costs $5 a month. I didn't sign-up, but I hate when I do sign-up for something thinking it was free and then it turns out the free option doesn't do anything .

Valid thing. Actually pricing is on home page but was testing it (A: on , B: off) guess you got the off part.

I find this really hard to believe. Factual statement, not trolling.

Re: Show HN: Keep track of earning expenses better than excel sheets

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Post by evolution »

milkshakes wrote: post #11
kingsidharth wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being a designer I do not get the hang of what gem went in this app. SO yeah that's the first part. I do not know how this makes the app worthless. Honestly? Designer doesn't know what goes behind it so app is worthless. Data is not encrypted because shipping a MVP was the main goal till now. But it's on the list yes. Follow up does not say sensitive data. Follow up says if you're data is so interesting that everyone…

welcome to HN. i personally think "worthless" might be just a bit rude but the H does stand for hacker, so naturally the audience would be interested in the technology you employ to keep their data safe.

worthless is still rude

Re: Show HN: Keep track of earning expenses better than excel sheets

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Post by VonLipwig »

kingsidharth wrote: post #8
VonLipwig wrote: post #7

-- EDIT -- [ To give these messages context. This comment could have been construed to say something else. I said 'what makes your app worthless is this' after taking about how he describes a lack of technical info and before I talk about the FAQ. I later updated this line to make it clearer. I should have added an edit note but didn't. I apologise. I just added the edit note and this blurb at the beginning to give t…

Being a designer I do not get the hang of what gem went in this app. SO yeah that's the first part. I do not know how this makes the app worthless. Honestly? Designer doesn't know what goes behind it so app is worthless. Data is not encrypted because shipping a MVP was the main goal till now. But it's on the list yes. Follow up does not say sensitive data. Follow up says if you're data is so interesting that everyone…

Updated my original comment so it cannot be read as your technical knowledge influences the value of your application.
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