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Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Post by batmanturkey »

NegativeK wrote: post #217
blooalien wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever… I'm glad to no longer have to fight my operating system to work with my hardware like I always had to on Windows - "Plug and Pray" was a joke for a valid reason. Installing drivers is for rubes. I'd rather plug stuff in and just get to work without going on a freakin' scavenger hunt for drivers… If you hate Linux so much, then just don't use it. Simple, yeah?

I greatly prefer Linux and use Windows when some software forces me to, but I don't feel that your comment is constructive in this conversation. Windows is generally a smoother experience. Linux is generally not ready for the average user with a randomly picked computer, as much as we'd wish it is.

Except that windows is demonstrably a less smooth solution these days, regardless of Linux even existing. Windows just sort of fell over and started stabbing itself and bleeding all over the floor, so a dead windows is just no use at all. They even removed the start control panel stuff, just gutted and useless now. It really feels like Microsoft went out on a mission to literally destroy everything they built while still mandating OEMS to suicidally preload it on all hardware anyway, and people still buy this stuff.

When are people going to state the braindead obvious that it’s never going to be the year of the windows desktop ever again, as Microsoft has committed to utterly pooping on all its users henceforth forevermore or?

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Post by Klonoar »

rhyn00 wrote: post #223

I would add that the linux-ready boutique vendors like system76, tuxedo computers, framework are also options if you don't want to fuss with drivers and what not, but still want to run linux. I definitely agree that linux doesn't run super smooth on all hardware, but it's not hard to find hardware these days where it does run smooth. I came across tuxedo computers randomly one day, and gave it a shot. Very impressed,…

Another vendor to mention is Star Labs, who make the StarBook. Unlike most vendors they fabricate their own designs - not rebranded clevo shells.

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Post by vetinari »

chickenchicken wrote: post #158
Mikeb85 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From everything I've read, ThinkPads (IBM/Red Hat devs seem to use them), Acers (have pretty standard parts, nothing funky), Dells and HPs (both have Linux dev laptops) all seem to run pretty well. The worst seem to be gaming laptops, non-Lenovo Chinese brands, Asus, etc...

Thinkpad T400 G2: the fan keeps running in full speed randomly.

I had the original T400; the issue was Intel Turbo Boost.

At the time, the workaround was to disable Turbo Boost, but as far as I remember, it was fixed eventually and the workaround was not needed anymore.

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Post by sofixa »

khnov wrote: post #209

Used ubuntu on thinkpad for work for the first time. Just got back to windows as I am x10 more productive there. Besides the fan's noise, I struggled to find a calendar app that just shows alert for my meetings, and that is not buggy as fuck. I windows, Ms Mail just works. then I got the frustration when rust ins installed but not work (should install gcc ...) Linux is great free software, but I am not using ut just…

Evolution worked pretty well last i used it (up until a year ago roughly).

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Post by rhyn00 »

Klonoar wrote: post #232
rhyn00 wrote: post #223

I would add that the linux-ready boutique vendors like system76, tuxedo computers, framework are also options if you don't want to fuss with drivers and what not, but still want to run linux. I definitely agree that linux doesn't run super smooth on all hardware, but it's not hard to find hardware these days where it does run smooth. I came across tuxedo computers randomly one day, and gave it a shot. Very impressed,…

Another vendor to mention is Star Labs, who make the StarBook. Unlike most vendors they fabricate their own designs - not rebranded clevo shells.

Wow, I'd never heard of StarBook, but it does indeed look like a wonderful machine.

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Post by Klonoar »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #107
whatever1 wrote: post #63

No it does not. Give it to me for 5’ and I will find at least 10 things that are broken. Energy management, monitor color profiles, external monitors, discrete gpu / integrated switching, Bluetooth, webcam settings all these are broken. Stop defending the state of Linux in personal computing. The best we can do is to put it in a VM and run it in a OS that has actual hardware support.

> OS that has actual hardware support. Give me 5' with such an OS and I will find at least 20 things which are broken.

Trivial nitpicking is not the same issue as hardware support.

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Post by Hellion »

blooalien wrote: post #155
Hellion wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is exactly what I mean.

Whatever… I'm glad to no longer have to fight my operating system to work with my hardware like I always had to on Windows - "Plug and Pray" was a joke for a valid reason. Installing drivers is for rubes. I'd rather plug stuff in and just get to work without going on a freakin' scavenger hunt for drivers… If you hate Linux so much, then just don't use it. Simple, yeah?

Still making my point for me, thanks!

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Post by batmanturkey »

bagaswastu wrote: post #64
mikece wrote: post #2

Boring is good when it comes to tech because it means you're not spending time trying to make things work. Save the excitement for the stuff that pays your bills.

Yes, and I don't want to spent my time dealing with bad drivers, so that's why I'm using Windows instead.

Funny, bad drivers are one of the reasons I left windows. Even needing drivers for class compliant USB audio was a dealbreaker
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