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Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land remote US job while living in living in EU?

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Can't you start a company in the EU and get hired as a contractor to circumvent this? That's the way to go for BR developers. You even get some cool tax breaks for exporting services.

Yes, that's the way you do it, at least in Poland. You start a sole proprietorship and then just invoice your US-based client monthly. It's very simple for both sides.

Do you have to do anything special with regards to vat? You’re selling services to a US company. Just asking

Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land remote US job while living in living in EU?

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I’ve been living in Europe for 7 years and working remotely for US companies. Here is what I do (please tell me about better ideas!): 1. Apply to US remote jobs on the east coast and mention working from Europe. I’ve had a lot of luck overlapping for half a day. Not so great in a leadership position though. 2. Contact colleagues you like working with at US companies and see if they’re open to working with you. Someon…

Just some input for you: Confirmation mail went straight to the spam folder in Google Mail. After confirmation send a mail with link to profile and some welcome message, how am I suppose to find my profile again? Let me edit my profile afterwards.

Thanks, we’ll do that! Yeah, that flow is ... not great right now.

Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land remote US job while living in living in EU?

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Interesting topic, would also like to know more.

Does anyone know what is the current situation with YC, do startups in U.S. hire from Europe on a B2B contract?

I scoured a little through the job listings but didn't find anything worthwhile.

Offtopic, but why are there so few mobile cross platform job postings in U.S., e.g. Flutter, including startups, why does everyone chase native development, especially when you are strapped for cash?

Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land remote US job while living in living in EU?

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> "The illegal bit isn’t the pay structure but the treatment of a contractor as an employee." What's illegal here exactly? 1. US Business Entity conducts business with EU Business Entity. 2. The person (let's call them a contractor) is employed as a full-time employee for the EU Business Entity. They also function as the owner of the EU Business Entity. 3. US Business Entity, EU Business Entity and the contractor - a…

If the company contracting allows the contracting entity to maintain the autonomy and flexibility required then nothing. Just wrapping people in shell companies doesn’t usually avoid the legal tests for whether someone is being treated as an employee or contractor AFAIK.

> "Just wrapping people in shell companies doesn’t usually avoid the legal tests for whether someone is being treated as an employee or contractor AFAIK."

What does "wrapping people in shell companies" mean? As a person, you're either employed for a "shell company", in which case you've signed a contract and you get paid a salary - or you're the owner of a "shell company", in which case you get to choose how to manage the company's funds. You can also be both, simultaneously. You'll be paying taxes either way. Paying yourself a salary is a taxable event.

I'm still not sure what's illegal here?

Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land remote US job while living in living in EU?

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It's not illegal. An EU person needs a legal entity in the EU (it can be either freelancer or a company) and then it's just usual B2B relationship where EU person pays their taxes, insurances etc. in the EU. US company still saves, i.e. instead of paying 200k to a fresh graduate they can pay it to a senior dev in the EU.

Depends, in Germany chances are that it falls under Scheinselbsttändigkeit (pseudo self-employment) which would be illegal.

That would be if the company were in Germany. But not outside Germany, there the freelancer is classified as "exporter" (both for US and EU clients).

Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land remote US job while living in living in EU?

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Just some input for you: Confirmation mail went straight to the spam folder in Google Mail. After confirmation send a mail with link to profile and some welcome message, how am I suppose to find my profile again? Let me edit my profile afterwards.

Thanks, we’ll do that! Yeah, that flow is ... not great right now.

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#48

Luxembourg's median household income was $67,521 in 2020 in crisis. EU also offer bicycle roads and collective healthcare, what are the arguments to go in the US? Genuine question.

Question is how to make more money in EU by working remotely and getting a US salary. Living in the US is totally different. Anyway, if you can make more, under similar conditions, why not?

Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land remote US job while living in living in EU?

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I worked previously for a US-based company that hired engineers from around the world (Pagely) and they didn't care where anyone worked. I don't have any specific advice other than these employers exist and you just have to find them. These are good sites with ability to filter down to remote-only: https://angel.co/jobs https://remoteok.com/ https://weworkremotely.com/ If you get pushback based on complexity it creat…

https://opolis.co/ seems to be US-only.

Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land remote US job while living in living in EU?

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I’ve been living in Europe for 7 years and working remotely for US companies. Here is what I do (please tell me about better ideas!): 1. Apply to US remote jobs on the east coast and mention working from Europe. I’ve had a lot of luck overlapping for half a day. Not so great in a leadership position though. 2. Contact colleagues you like working with at US companies and see if they’re open to working with you. Someon…

Also good to say; many singles or child free couples can change their timezone to match their client. I changed from US to SG and back a few times over the past 10 years while living in the EU. It was actually quite nice; asia was better because finishing your day when the rest of your friends wake up is nicer than saying you cannot really do anything after 4 pm but you get used to it anyway.
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