This happens because of how Microsoft approaches product development and design. On many product teams, PMs end up doing not only the product design decisions but even designs much of the products themselves. This works for them because it focuses product cycles on releasing what "matters" to the customer, but it ends up cutting craft and quality. This makes their products poor to use, but is also what drives revenue…
I suggest that Teams only gets used because it’s included in the enormous license that companies buy for Exchange and/or Office and the most popular alternative has its own fees. Large companies don’t want to fork over another licensing fee in the tens of thousands of dollars for Slack when they’re getting Teams “free.”
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#62Pretty simple root cause: Bureaucracy combined with lack of shared vision. I support your need to vent, it's undisputably a magnificently huge pile of stinky garbage. Given the amount of resources poured in, it'd be hard to do worse.
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#63Related question, why are Google products so good, relative to Microsoft?
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#65I don't honestly think they are taking responsibility for quality issues or feedback.
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#66They compete on price with companies that don’t give a shit about employees. Which is most.
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#68The things you're asking it to do seem normal, but each of those things is a different device with a different context. It's not surprising to me that it's hard to switch contexts.
I regularly start meetings on my home WiFi and then get in a vehicle and switch to cellular data. I've only have had short interruptions, which is MUCH better than most tools I've used.
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#69My experience has been pretty positive overall, at least for calling. Channels don’t work as well as slack, but it’s decent.
The big trick is to run it in a browser so you avoid any electron overhead. It is fully featured in browser.