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President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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post #58

Is there any scenario from this point onwards, any at all that results in Russia coming out stronger once the smoke clears? Because I can't see any. Seems to me like the Russian govt are now in a situation where they have no choice but to see this thing through just to try and save face.

If they could conquer Ukraine and effectively quell unrest, the Federation could be said to have come out stronger. That is very unlikely though, with the Ukrainian army getting effective support.

If they manage to hold the land bridge to Krim and negotiate a cease-fire, it can be argued that they had limited success in their objectives. But at a huge economic and humanitarian cost.

And in a nuclear war, nobody wins. So stronger could only be used in relative terms.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Can someone Russian explain what on earth they are thinking? Russia appears to have 10x the casualties as Ukraine, soldiers that doesn't really want to fight, and are currently losing. Yet the leaders think it is a good idea to keep the war going? To me it seems that with the material Ukraine is receiving from the West they will easily retake all territory Russia has occupied.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia was already always going to lose that "superpower" tag the moment the world shifted from hard industrial goods to consumer goods and technology. The first computer, the growth of the Japanese consumer goods industry, and Silicon Valley likely did as much to collapse the Soviet Union as anything else - they were simply out of the picture the moment we started creating software and portable stereos and personal…

Yeah, it's great how Javascript simply replaced industrial processes and our society no longer needs natural resources - only more stars on Github.

I never said Russia won't be relevant - it will always be massively relevant simply beacuse of its size, natural resources, and location.

But hard resources are highly commoditized, and there are few nations with any sort of monopoly over them. The world will be better off with Russian resources, but if it can't access them, there are plenty of other alternatives that can be brought online with some investment.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Will the winter and the frozen ground give advantages to Russia? When is this likely to happen? I heard that the February invasion was too late and that the thaw was beginning, hampering access.

Winter means you need winter outfit and that was a problem in February. No idea if it still is.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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post #92
post #58

Is there any scenario from this point onwards, any at all that results in Russia coming out stronger once the smoke clears? Because I can't see any. Seems to me like the Russian govt are now in a situation where they have no choice but to see this thing through just to try and save face.

Well they're still not having the energy crisis and inflation of the West, so at this rate it seems likely they'll maintain this win.

Inflation in Russia is significantly worse

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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post #102
post #58

Is there any scenario from this point onwards, any at all that results in Russia coming out stronger once the smoke clears? Because I can't see any. Seems to me like the Russian govt are now in a situation where they have no choice but to see this thing through just to try and save face.

If they could conquer Ukraine and effectively quell unrest, the Federation could be said to have come out stronger. That is very unlikely though, with the Ukrainian army getting effective support. If they manage to hold the land bridge to Krim and negotiate a cease-fire, it can be argued that they had limited success in their objectives. But at a huge economic and humanitarian cost. And in a nuclear war, nobody wins.…

Would the West intervene in a nuclear war limited to Ukrainian territory?

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

new account (created 6d ago) and this is the first submission?

second

aaaa, the green color is new-ish account? Nice!

I was wondering about that for a while now :-D Not to actually google yet it but still :-)

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Will the winter and the frozen ground give advantages to Russia? When is this likely to happen? I heard that the February invasion was too late and that the thaw was beginning, hampering access.

Given their piss poor logistics and supplies, it seems very unlikely that they will be prepared for a winter invasion. Those men will freeze to death.
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