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President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Partial... impartial... There is no such thing as "partial mobilization". There is a law on mobilization, but who cares about laws there days in Russia. The main objective of this mobilization is to call up to 5mln conscripts in the army. This morning, people already started to receive summons in person.

It is a bit like the "balanced stance", what does a balanced stance on an invasion even mean? https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/sep/15/putin-th...

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Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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With individual EU countries being perfectly egoistic and pragmatist, with Germans being in the pockets of Russian oligarchs, this situation overall is heading into catastrophic direction.

I personally blame Russia war mongering, the USA brain dead diplomacy of the past twenty-five years and their constant meddling in European affairs for their own advantage. But to each their own I guess.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Partial... impartial... There is no such thing as "partial mobilization". There is a law on mobilization, but who cares about laws there days in Russia. The main objective of this mobilization is to call up to 5mln conscripts in the army. This morning, people already started to receive summons in person.

> This morning, people already started to receive summons in person. Wow... That's actually quite terrifying how fast these things can go south.

I mean, they've likely been planning this for months. It's not a surprise that they had it ready to go immediately upon the public announcement.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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This is really going to screw Russia for generations. Every young Russian I know has either already left, plans to leave, or has to stay but hates their leader. You don't get your country to turn into a superpower by losing the most educated and skilled of the young generations. I only hope as things get more desperate he doesn't feel trapped lash out with the nukes.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Their main propaganda news channel has already said (incorrectly) that they are already fighting NATO and US troops in the breakaway areas. Is it time to make this a reality? I really don't see it ending without it happening. russia has shown that it has no regard for the suffering of any troops of any nationality. So purely from a population perspective, Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force…

The Ukraine can do it, if it gets supplied with the weapons to do it. Even with the weapons they got so far, they managed to hurt the Russian military a lot - hence the mobilization. They got some very powerful weapons, but still limited in number and choice. Just delivering long-range ammunition for HIMARS in large numbers might be enough to break any Russian offensive as all supply and all fixed positions were easy…

Calling Ukraine "The Ukraine" is a Russian tactic to make Ukraine seem less like a country and more like a region. Quoting from wikipedia:

> However, since Ukraine's declaration of independence in 1991, [calling Ukraine "The Ukraine"] has become politicised and is now rarer, and style guides advise against its use. US ambassador William Taylor said that using "the Ukraine" implies disregard for Ukrainian sovereignty. The official Ukrainian position is that "the Ukraine" is incorrect, both grammatically and politically.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Their main propaganda news channel has already said (incorrectly) that they are already fighting NATO and US troops in the breakaway areas. Is it time to make this a reality? I really don't see it ending without it happening. russia has shown that it has no regard for the suffering of any troops of any nationality. So purely from a population perspective, Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force…

> Is it time to make this a reality? Nobody is going to directly engage a global nuclear superpower in armed conflict unless they are literally being invaded. > purely from a population perspective, Ukraine will fail eventually unless they can effectively force-multiply like we've never seen in any other armed conflict. Successful invasions and occupations are not decided "purely from a population perspective".

Oh, so why did "Korean" and "Vietnamese" pilots suddenly started speaking russian when they were shot down?

USSR directly engaged USA, China did the same in Korean War.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Stupid question, but what does Putin want exactly? what will end the war?

He wants the natural resources of Ukraine, and he wants to reimpose the Russian Empire, whose border encompassed a larger area than that of the Soviets.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Ukraine can do it, if it gets supplied with the weapons to do it. Even with the weapons they got so far, they managed to hurt the Russian military a lot - hence the mobilization. They got some very powerful weapons, but still limited in number and choice. Just delivering long-range ammunition for HIMARS in large numbers might be enough to break any Russian offensive as all supply and all fixed positions were easy…

Doesn't Ukraine have a lot more to lose over time? Russia can just flatten the terrain, or ultimately nuke. The reverse isn't possible.

There's no 'just' in flattening a terrain or nuking.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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I really hope the russian/kreml/putin war against Ukraine will end in a epic failure for them. I also hope that frozen russian assets in west can be confiscated to build up Ukraine again, russia has to be accountable and pay for all madness and horrific things they have done.

Oh yeah, super good idea. We had fantastic experience with humiliated nations before. It worked so well for Germany after WW1 /s

FACT: the end of this war must be positive for the Russian people, no matter whether Russia loses or wins the military operation. Putin came to power because the West didnt help the former Soviet republics. If Russia is left alone humiliated again then we will have the next anti-western system in 10 years.

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