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But online blitz chess when you're 16 is not "part of a professional competitive career".
Chess.com put out a statement refuting Hans' claims that he only cheated twice and Hans has not responded yet.
Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
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Re: Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
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> I'm with Carlsen on this. If you're caught or admit to cheating even once in a professional competitive career that's it - You should be out for good. That’s absolutely not the rule and neither you nor Carlsen get to decide that. There is no permissiveness here. Hans has played according to the rule of the tournament. There is no evidence of cheating. That’s it. Unless you have proof of what you are advancing, you…
He's admitted to cheating in the past. The Bayesian priors for him currently cheating are not the same as for other people.
I find the general holier-than-thou self-righteous attitude expressed by most armchair commenters extremely off putting.
Re: Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
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Even if it turns out Niemann cheated, the way Carlsen is acting coy about it puts me off. The tweet was bad enough (unlike Mourinho he's clearly not in "big trouble" from his insinuation), but this resignation is such a publicity stunt.
Maybe Carlsen doesn't know who to blame. He could suspect Niemann, or someone on Niemann's team, or someone in his own team, or a backdoor in Stockfish, or (depending on Carlsen's own mental health right now) space aliens. I can understand that out of an abundance of caution (and on the advice of his lawyers) he doesn't want to name anyone in particular, although seeing so many fingers pointed at Niemann (understanda…
Re: Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
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chess is everything for him he gave it his life. I wonder how you will react when you deeply convinced that what is the dearest for you has been taken away by what you believe is 100% a cheater?
If you are deeply convinced someone is a cheater why not come out with a proper, official statement? Resigning like this is immature and ridiculous.
Re: Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
#75Applying sound statistical methods to thousands of Niemann games, cheating expert Ken Regan finds no evidence of cheating [1]. > The verdict > Dr. Regan analyzed all of Hans Niemann's games over the last two years, including online games, such as played on Chess.com and their events, and his conclusion is there is no reason whatsoever to suspect him of cheating. The wide range of results in a bell curve, with some go…
Even his online play where he admitted to cheating?
Re: Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if it turns out Niemann cheated, the way Carlsen is acting coy about it puts me off. The tweet was bad enough (unlike Mourinho he's clearly not in "big trouble" from his insinuation), but this resignation is such a publicity stunt.
Chess.com put out a statement refuting Hans' claim that Hans only cheated twice, and Hans has yet to respond. Carlsen owns 20% of chess.com.
Re: Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
#77For context, Magnus withdrew from a major tournament last month after losing to Hans. He has not made a statement, but it is understood that he suspects Hans of cheating. Hans has admitted to cheating online, though he denies cheating in person. As more evidence comes out, it seems that Hans has cheated a lot more than he admitted, and potentially over the board as well (for example, this analysis [1] shows that he's…
I don’t understand why people are going out their way to justify Carlsen attitude. What we have is the world champion throwing a tantrum because he lost against a player there is absolutely no evidence has cheated against him and is now calling for him to be expelled despite having no evidence whatsoever. This is harassment pure and simple. The whole thing is disgraceful and reflects extremely badly on competitive ch…
Considering how Carlsen has not made any public statements about the matter how did you get to this?
But true. There is no evidence, but there is quite a lot of suspicious activity around Niemann if there wasn't this wouldn't be a story.
Re: Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Hans has admitted to cheating online Several years ago. I think when he was 16? (Not saying that is when he cheated, but that’s when he admitted to cheating).
Hans as admitted to cheating on chess.com when he was 12 and 16, so not that long ago since he is only 19 right now.
Re: Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
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There are still quite a bit of sports where machines can’t compete, like tennis or soccer.
The guy from "Stuff Made Here" builds all sorts of sports machines: a gun-powered golf club, a basketball hoop that's impossible to miss, etc. I think he would be able to make a tennis playing machine that aces every single service shot (if he's not working on that already! ;-)
Re: Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann after one move
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Hans has admitted to cheating online Several years ago. I think when he was 16? (Not saying that is when he cheated, but that’s when he admitted to cheating).
Hans as admitted to cheating on chess.com when he was 12 and 16, so not that long ago since he is only 19 right now.