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Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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What part of “seems like a problem for the producers of bad screens to solve” makes it seem like this is blaming the people who buy the screens and not the people that make the screens. Don’t make the art worse, hold the manufacturers accountable for selling terrible products.

The screens and sound setups are fine. The movies are bad products here.

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Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Buy a sound system. I now have a 3.1 setup and can hear the dialogue. A dedicated center channel makes a huge difference. Its amazing. Many AVRs can also adjust it so the dialogue is louder, but I haven't found a need.

Why would I buy something from people in the same industry to fix a problem that they caused? I'll just take subtitles. Especially when all the suggestions for 3.1 systems cost 500+. That's just ridiculous when all I want is a system to make the audio not terrible (loud sounds don't blow out my ears yet voices are clear and understandable).

$500 doesnt go far with audio. For that amount it would be better to get a soundbar.

And a soundbar is still way better than TV speakers.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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It's the same on the 5.1 mix.

Maybe when downmixing it to stereo. If you play it on a real 5.1 system (not a soundbar or other "Dolby Atmos" gimmick with less speakers) your dialogues will come out of the dedicated center speaker which will make it easier to follow. (most home cinema receivers even have a 'boost dialogue' function if you want to know what's happening in the latest Nolan film...)

I have a good calibrated 5.1 setup.

I still find the dialog way too quiet in most movies and 5.1 TV shows, even turning the center channel up +6dB.

I could turn it up even more but it's ridiculous that it should need more than that.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Roku has that feature; you can enable remote listening via the app and pipe sound to your earphones.

Good to know! I love this feature a lot and only thought apple did it. Does it also work for game consoles too? Like playing switch on the tv but feeling audio to your earphones?

It's weird to me to hear people talk about this as a feature because I've always just had a computer hooked up to my TV and I can use whatever audio output I want, headphones, Bluetooth, you name it

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Theory: Because distribution companies for movies made having DTS/Dolby Atmos/Whatever mandatory in the theater, sound engineers primarily focus on that because that takes 99% of the time. Because theaters with just optical stereo (yes I'm aware most theaters use digital distribution and projectors now, that just hammers home the point) aren't really a thing any more they don't really bother optimizing it because "no…

Yeah but this is 2022 are there even movie theaters anymore? The box office sales are deep in the red and many theaters are going bankrupt. Most of What I watch are tv shows

What a travesty it must be to realize your personal behavior has no bearing on the rest of what the public is doing. Movies are doing pretty well still. Lots of people are still going out, but there are still some trailing pandemic effects. Still, it's really not that far off from pre pandemic, especially when there is a big marvel / franchise film

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Buy a sound system. I now have a 3.1 setup and can hear the dialogue. A dedicated center channel makes a huge difference. Its amazing. Many AVRs can also adjust it so the dialogue is louder, but I haven't found a need.

It's definitely better but I still find mixing inconsistent enough that I have to cycle through profiles on my AVR(denon)/system(performa3) to find a mixing that works. Mostly seems to be an issue with stuff in the last couple of decades.

I just leave it (Onkyo) on DTS:Neuralx. It's good enough for most of my wants.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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There is zero need for surround sound -- the plot is infinitely more important than knowing which direction a sound came from. Surround sound is completely and utterly a waste in every respect.

There is zero need for color -- the plot is infinitely more important than knowing the hair color of its actors. Color is completely and utterly a waste in every respect. There is zero need for widescreen -- There is zero need for high definition -- There is zero need for stereo audio -- There is zero need for digital home video -- The plot is infinitely more important than any of the aforementioned gimmicks. All we…

Yeah, I agree with all that.

A good movie in black and white is infinitely preferable to a bad color movie with surround sound and high def and widescreen, etc.

I have nothing against new tech, but the STORY and the motivations of the characters need to be absolutely preeminent.

Nothing is worse than a chase scene in which there is no tension, which is why I pretty much stopped watching movies fifteen years ago.

Frankly, the area man is on to something.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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> "The loud parts (including explosions and music) are too loud for her, so we have to turn the volume down during those parts, but the dialog is too quiet [..]" On YouTube the ads are the explosions. Ads are so loud compared to the regular videos that I often just turn the volume down and the captions on.

There's a "mute" button too.

Does it reliably and persistently mute all the time?

On iOS specifically I have the problem that sometimes an ad starts to blare from a background tab (sometimes on another tab page) out of the blue. So I try to never leave YouTube open. I cannot imagine that YouTube wants me to keep it shut, but well... there we are.

What makes the whole thing even more ironic is that YouTube refuses to play in the background in any other case, even though it seems to be perfectly possible from a technical point of view.

When I turn the volume down on my phone I know what I get and it'd never let me down.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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There is zero need for color -- the plot is infinitely more important than knowing the hair color of its actors. Color is completely and utterly a waste in every respect. There is zero need for widescreen -- There is zero need for high definition -- There is zero need for stereo audio -- There is zero need for digital home video -- The plot is infinitely more important than any of the aforementioned gimmicks. All we…

Yeah, I agree with all that. A good movie in black and white is infinitely preferable to a bad color movie with surround sound and high def and widescreen, etc. I have nothing against new tech, but the STORY and the motivations of the characters need to be absolutely preeminent. Nothing is worse than a chase scene in which there is no tension, which is why I pretty much stopped watching movies fifteen years ago. Fran…

Meh, I see value in both The Magnificent Ambersons and the French atmospheric cinema of the '60s.

Film, as art, should not be forced into a box.

There's value to film with no plot at all. Consider Koyaanisqatsi.

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