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Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by _V_ »

Gigachad wrote: post #383
_V_ wrote: post #294

I dunno, this article reads... strange. I mean yeah, it is nice to be able to open it from front and rear. But what good does it make when they pair every single component to the motherboard? Yeah, technically parts are more accessible (physically) but thats only the beginning of the repair process. And unless you can buy genuine parts without hassle and put them in, you are still SOL. To me it is like cheering that…

Because the rear glass was very common to break and Apple would not replace it because its borderline impossible. Now it seems very likely that they will offer it as a reasonably priced repair.

Yeah, I know. It was painfull process full of shattered glass.

Reasonably priced repair - unless they found some random part glued to the backside that they paired to the motherboard for "security reasons" :-D

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Post by sangnoir »

reaperducer wrote: post #348
sangnoir wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean that 75pound repair equipment requiring $1200 hold on a card... How is this legal? Holds ought to be capped at the maximum payable for a transaction.

How is this legal? Holds ought to be capped at the maximum payable for a transaction. Sounds like you've never rented a moving truck. Or a power tool. Or tried to rent a car with a debit card.

I've rented all the items you've listed, plus construction equipment and hotel rooms, and none had this absurd cost:hold ratio. Notably, only the powertools were cheaper than the repair equipment in absolute terms.

Having a difference of 2 orders of magnitude between card hold and actual fee is absurd and atypical. I cant imagine a $7,500 hotel room stay placing a $120,000 hold

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by Gigachad »

postalrat wrote: post #30

Now just put a usb-c port on the phone and allow me to use any web browser.

Feels like the real reason to not allow alt browsers would be because it results in Chrome being the only browser anyone uses. Firefox is already effectively dead and Safari can't be ignored because having a website broken on safari means ios users can't use it, rather than being able to tell them to install chrome for the "best experience"

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Post by cromka »

newtritious wrote: post #366
cromka wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather say they simply know that being evil is not a good look. It's still driven by profit, they just have a more holistic view on that.

This is kind of a weird take. If everyone is driven by profit, but some get it by evil means and others get it by doing things that benefit their customers, can’t we simply say that the people who do evil stuff are evil, and the ones who don’t aren’t?

I guess I should have stressed the "look" part a bit more.

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Post by pb7 »

heavyset_go wrote: post #365
pb7 wrote: post #336

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>Apple and Google collude Citation needed.

Yes, it's just a coincidence that Apple and Google's anticompetitive policies in the mobile OS and app distribution markets have converged such that they are both practically identical and also allow them to leverage their dominance in those markets to dominate other markets like mobile app payments, as well.

Right, just like every car manufacturer in the world colluded since they all converged on 4 wheels and are practically identical.

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Post by colejohnson66 »

waffleiron wrote: post #376
matt-attack wrote: post #333

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What's the problem if you intend to return it?

Not everyone has 1200 USD laying around.

Then don’t rent their tools. Say they only put a $100 hold, and you didn’t return them. Now they charge you $1100 but you can’t pay it or your credit limit would prevent it. Oops. As another commenter mentioned, car/van rentals are the same way.

The tools are not required, despite what inflammatory articles like the Verge’s try/tried to claim. iFixIt’s guides makes it very clear that it’s possible to do the whole repair without them, and I’ve done it quite a few times in the past.

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Post by incanus77 »

dang wrote: post #286
incanus77 wrote: post #249

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This post was on the HN front page and made it all the way there without comment, mine being the first.

Breaking the silence by posting something unsubstantive is the worst thing you can do. Threads are sensitive to initial conditions. Please don't do that again. It's quite normal for a thread to get upvoted but not get comments for quite a while. If that means people are reading and digesting the article, that's great. We want reflective comments, not reflexive ones ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefi…

Got it, sorry about that. Will reconsider in future.

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Post by colejohnson66 »

sangnoir wrote: post #392
reaperducer wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this legal? Holds ought to be capped at the maximum payable for a transaction. Sounds like you've never rented a moving truck. Or a power tool. Or tried to rent a car with a debit card.

I've rented all the items you've listed, plus construction equipment and hotel rooms, and none had this absurd cost:hold ratio. Notably, only the powertools were cheaper than the repair equipment in absolute terms. Having a difference of 2 orders of magnitude between card hold and actual fee is absurd and atypical. I cant imagine a $7,500 hotel room stay placing a $120,000 hold

The $1200 amount comes from it being what the tools actually cost if you wanted to buy them. The hold is to bypass the whole “charge $1200, then return for $1150 credit” rigamarole. Doing that would affect your credit usage and could kill your score if it wasn’t returned before the card due date; A hold doesn’t.

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Post by samatman »

reisse wrote: post #122
grumpycamel wrote: post #64

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If Apple allows super easy salvage of another device for parts, I wonder if phones will start to be stolen again. Easy salvage might create an unacceptably wide-spread life-safety risk to ALL smartphone owners. Tradeoffs, unintended consequences.

Life-safety? Seriously? It's gun control and law enforcement problem, not the one of easy salvaging. Y'know, it's hard to imagine that someone in Europe or most of the Asia would be robbing at gunpoint for the smartphone. Risk/reward just does not match - it'll be most likely few years or even probation for simple robbery with good ol' bats, and tens of years for robbing at gunpoint, a good part of it from illegal fi…

Europe and Asia both have a fair amount of motorcycle robbery / purse snatching.

Victims can get dragged into traffic and killed, or stabbed if they resist. Robbery is robbery, a handgun is just one way to threaten someone in the process.

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