I would imagine most people don't go behind their TV hook up their little HDMI dongle every time they want to use it, so it seems reasonable to have a comparable wattage drawn when it's built-in -- but this is significantly higher than what it looks like an idle Chromecast draws (1.8-2W). Why is it so much more?
Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
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Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Philips 32PHS5507/12: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09ZHVSVYP For a larger TV (like 50-60 inches) a good on-paper power consumption amount would be between 50 and 70w. You can lower that drastically if the TV has an eco mode and is a dumb TV. In Europe they have to provide a "Product fiche" that lists a number of things including power draw, and an overall "grade". TVs basically never go below grade E because the…
Ooof 768p is a dealbreaker for me unfortunately. Especially since it is meant to be used in a smaller room where you may be sitting closer. While I have your attention, are the energy ratings seen on electronic devices generally a big jump in real world usage between the various tiers? I just moved to the EU from the U.S. so all of this is very new to me. Thanks!
My living room TV consumes 70w (as measured by me), which is not the best, but considering how often it's actually turned on it doesn't make enough of a difference. 10w of power draw equates to 3.5kwh per year if the TV is only on for an average of an hour per day, which would cost me a little over 1 euro. The reason why I replaced the bedroom TV was because it didn't have a shutoff timer, so it would stay on for days if I didn't notice, drawing 37w the whole time (325kwh, or 115 euros per year if it stayed on the whole year).
The biggest ticket items for energy efficient replacement are any appliances that stay on long term (fridge), your oven if you use it a lot (get an air fryer or a combined microwave/grill), any computers that stay on all day, and anything with bad standby consumption (get an energy meter like this one: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00MHNGWDM).
Also, if you need additional electrical heating in the winter, an oil heater is the most efficient. DeLonghi makes the best ones, for example https://www.amazon.de/-/en/DeLonghi-TRRS0920-electric-radiat...
And never underestimate the savings from good insulation!
Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#203Why? Because it apparently uses 30-35W (!!!) while being in so-called "Network standby" mode which was not legal per EU regulation. The US/Asia models happily gulp down that much power by default though.
Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#204I have a 2020 model I bought from Costco and as slow and shitty the UI is it also still burns 16W in standby. There isn't a way to disable Chromecast either so thanks for nothing Sony and Google. I need a dumb tv and Nvidia sheild. Edit: I take the standby power usage part back. After settings changes including Eco stuff and something to do with remote start and a restart it's at 4W which is very acceptable. The UI i…
Go to Apps, “See all apps”, scroll down, find “Chromecast built-in” and then click Disable on the app’s settings. At least that is how it’s on my Sony TV.
Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Philips 32PHS5507/12: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09ZHVSVYP For a larger TV (like 50-60 inches) a good on-paper power consumption amount would be between 50 and 70w. You can lower that drastically if the TV has an eco mode and is a dumb TV. In Europe they have to provide a "Product fiche" that lists a number of things including power draw, and an overall "grade". TVs basically never go below grade E because the…
Ooof 768p is a dealbreaker for me unfortunately. Especially since it is meant to be used in a smaller room where you may be sitting closer. While I have your attention, are the energy ratings seen on electronic devices generally a big jump in real world usage between the various tiers? I just moved to the EU from the U.S. so all of this is very new to me. Thanks!
It so well answers what I want when the seldom-used 2010 55" Sony Bravia mounted above the piano goes that I'm considering buying one right now while Phillips is still selling them.
Thanks for pointing me in this direction, kstenerud!
[0] https://www.amazon.de/Philips-43PFS5507-12-Fernseher-TV/dp/B...
Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't matter in the UK, there's no incentive to turn off the set to save yourself £20 a month, because the taxpayer will subsidise your excess electric use thanks to the latest idiotic socialist idea to simply get future generations to pay for today's excess use.
Tory government idea? *for non-uk: the Tories are The Conservative Party, considered right wing, and certainly not 'socialist' by any stretch. Reading any UK newspaper of late, I would consider a £20pcm saving tip almost front-pageworthy. I also believe Viz might accept it in their Top-tips section, if you want to reach a wider audience.
The government has taken those signals away by agreeing to pay whatever the price is
They could have simply given £1000, or £100, or £10000, to every household, but they chose not to.
Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
Philips 32PHS5507/12: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09ZHVSVYP For a larger TV (like 50-60 inches) a good on-paper power consumption amount would be between 50 and 70w. You can lower that drastically if the TV has an eco mode and is a dumb TV. In Europe they have to provide a "Product fiche" that lists a number of things including power draw, and an overall "grade". TVs basically never go below grade E because the…
Ooof 768p is a dealbreaker for me unfortunately. Especially since it is meant to be used in a smaller room where you may be sitting closer. While I have your attention, are the energy ratings seen on electronic devices generally a big jump in real world usage between the various tiers? I just moved to the EU from the U.S. so all of this is very new to me. Thanks!
An image with the old and new labels side by side: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_21_...
Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
> my 2011 plasma TV My experience, having now bought several used plasmas from about that era, is that they tend to have extremely bright black points, comparable to a ~2015 mid-tier LCD screen. Fairly cheap modern LCDs seem to have superior image quality with sharper pixels as well. Is this not your experience? Have I just been unlucky and purchased some aging panels? When I got into the market, I was of the impress…
> Fairly cheap modern LCDs seem to have superior image quality with sharper pixels as well. I personally don't like the "sharpness", I like the image to be more "fluid", with the colours more easily "blending in" into one another (don't know what's the exact technical term for that). A few days ago I watched a movie at one of my friends' place, she has a fairly recent LCD screen. I couldn't shake off the feeling of "…
that was most likely motion smoothing. for reasons unknown to anyone but TV OEMs it's enabled by default.
Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#209This may not sound bad, but it's the equivalent of 200 kWh per year and the set is only supposed to draw 0.5-1W from the specifications This would cost more than 50 EUR per year at current prices, and is sizeable compared to the average German citizens consumption of 1500 kWh electricity Let's just say this is not ideal given the current energy shortage in Europe...
Not at the current prices for new customers. I'm currently paying 50,07€ct/kWh here in northern Germany. 25W * 8760h * 0,5€ = ~109€ per year. The price hurts, yes, but the waste of power is _criminal_.