Just for my understanding: What is the power consumption of a Apple TV in idle mode? and of a Raspberry Pi in idle mode?
Just measured my RPi Zero 2, it took 0.5-1W without HDMI after bootup.
Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
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Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#182For comparison, my external Nvidia shield (2019) consumes around 3W in standby and 8W max. https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_shield_android_...
And this has built in Chromecast. I love my Shield.
Their customer service is awful. You have to downgrade the Chromecast built-in on all new models to get it working with certain apps, and there's nothing on the forums about it.
Hulu Live TV app is broken, forums are full of posts, absolutely nothing Nvidia is doing about it besides posting broken English instructions to reformat the device.
My friend sold me hard on the Nvidia Shield PRO and I went with two to replace my house's Rokus. Two weeks into all the problems, I reconnected the Roku for all the streaming services, the Shield is for Plex only.
Pretty disappointed.
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#183I've a 2015 model that's becoming harder to use because of the outdated software and I'm not sure of a fix. The panel still looks great.
Depending on what you do either get an Nvidia Shield or an AppleTV. I'd recommend the Shield for Plex or the AppleTV for streaming Netflix, etc.
Definitely don't get the Shield if you use the stream apps. Nvidia's support for them is awful and their forums provide no help.
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#184If you're wondering how much energy is consumed by your electronics, a base model kill-a-watt for about $30 will show you watts and cumulative watt-hours. It's a fantastic tool that pays for itself besides giving an eye-opening, interesting experience. You'd be surprised at the things in your house consuming electricity 24/7. Almost everything in my house is either on power strip surge protectors or just unplugged.
Some libraries have meters you can check out.
Good suggestion! I just learned Oakland Public Library lends many types of tools: https://oaklandlibrary.org/otll/tool-list/.
Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#185I own a Sony A80J and this is also what I was measuring.
I'm thankful I did measure this before just blindly turning the feature on.
I have a Bose Soundbar also with Chromecast and that one doesn't suck down 25W+ while on standby and can thankfully turn on the TV via HDMI CEC.
Sadly the whole OS experience is shitty on the TV. It's 2500€+ TV and the UI is sluggish, Tv takes at least 5-10 Seconds to turn on each time and still comes with the classic google ad like interface.
I bought a Chromecast remote that works via bluetooth to somewhat make the remote feel a bit faster, but it sadly just makes a tiny difference.
Nvidia Shield still feels like the only real option when you want a non sluggish Interface on your multi-thousand euro/dollar purchase.
Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast
#186Misleading headline - it’s a discussion about one Sony TV, that was released in 2015. Worth checking others, but the headline makes it sound like they all do this.
My sony xr-77a80j released in 2021 and at least sucks down 25W in Standby with Chromecast support on. I think it was more like 28W last I measured.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
> vastly superior than anything except plasma. One more reason for me to cherish my 2011 plasma TV. Also, it has none of that smart-tv non-sense, which is a big plus.
> my 2011 plasma TV My experience, having now bought several used plasmas from about that era, is that they tend to have extremely bright black points, comparable to a ~2015 mid-tier LCD screen. Fairly cheap modern LCDs seem to have superior image quality with sharper pixels as well. Is this not your experience? Have I just been unlucky and purchased some aging panels? When I got into the market, I was of the impress…
> Fairly cheap modern LCDs seem to have superior image quality with sharper pixels as well.
I personally don't like the "sharpness", I like the image to be more "fluid", with the colours more easily "blending in" into one another (don't know what's the exact technical term for that).
A few days ago I watched a movie at one of my friends' place, she has a fairly recent LCD screen. I couldn't shake off the feeling of "being in the same room" with the actors, there was almost no "cinematography" involved anymore. I didn't like that, made it quite difficult for me to raise that fourth wall. I know of the HDR on-off setting thingie, but I don't think it was only because of that.
I agree with the burning in, only that in my case is not that severe, for what it's worth. There's some of it in the upper-left corner, from when I used to leave the TV open almost non-stop to a shitty music channel, that music channel's logo has left its mark in there. It doesn't "show up" all the time, only when the screen up there is all "white"/light up, and only at times, not always. Either way, manageable.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
This would cost more than 50 EUR per year Try: €200 at current forecasts :/
Doesn't matter in the UK, there's no incentive to turn off the set to save yourself £20 a month, because the taxpayer will subsidise your excess electric use thanks to the latest idiotic socialist idea to simply get future generations to pay for today's excess use.
Tory government idea?
*for non-uk: the Tories are The Conservative Party, considered right wing, and certainly not 'socialist' by any stretch.
Reading any UK newspaper of late, I would consider a £20pcm saving tip almost front-pageworthy. I also believe Viz might accept it in their Top-tips section, if you want to reach a wider audience.
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#189My new Philips dumb TV just arrived this weekend and I must say I'm impressed with the power draw. In default calibration, it draws 24w. But since it's in the bedroom and is only used at night, I've set it to ultra-eco mode and lowered the brightness for night viewing. Now the TV along an Amazon Fire TV stick powered by its USB port draw a combined 13w! In standby mode, the power draw doesn't even register on my mete…
Can you link the model you purchased? I’m in the market for a new TV and Philips is literally in my backyard.
Philips 32PHS5507/12: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09ZHVSVYP
For a larger TV (like 50-60 inches) a good on-paper power consumption amount would be between 50 and 70w. You can lower that drastically if the TV has an eco mode and is a dumb TV. In Europe they have to provide a "Product fiche" that lists a number of things including power draw, and an overall "grade". TVs basically never go below grade E because the rules are far too strict.
Oh, also the power LED on this TV is SUPER ANNOYING! I had to open the TV (just a bunch of philips screws), pull out the IR receiver circuit board, and cover the LED with electrical tape (the LED, not the IR receiver).
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#190If you're wondering how much energy is consumed by your electronics, a base model kill-a-watt for about $30 will show you watts and cumulative watt-hours. It's a fantastic tool that pays for itself besides giving an eye-opening, interesting experience. You'd be surprised at the things in your house consuming electricity 24/7. Almost everything in my house is either on power strip surge protectors or just unplugged.
I’d actually recommend a wifi smart plug with energy monitoring Easier to read the display on your phone ;)
I recommend Eve Energy, a bit pricey but works with HomeKit/Matter and 100% cloud-less. (No accounts, no remote access unless you have a HomeKit hub device, etc.) Also generates some nice detailed graphs and exports to CSV.