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Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by exabrial »

ryandrake wrote: post #136

One more vote for terrible audio mixes and one for actors who mumble their dialog. Whenever I watch movies with my wife, we constantly have to fiddle with the remote control. The loud parts (including explosions and music) are too loud for her, so we have to turn the volume down during those parts, but the dialog is too quiet and mumbly for me to hear, so we turn the volume up during those parts. We now just keep the…

GET TO THE CHOPPA

Guy could barely speak english, but listen to the background audio when he screams that. Great example

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote: post #501
dmitriid wrote: post #365

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Art is worse though. From intangible sludge https://www.vox.com/culture/22840526/colors-movies-tv-gray-d... to modern DPs and directors not being able to film a dark scene competently https://twitter.com/nikitonsky/status/1564633641828884483

> colors, what happened to them? Did movies and TV copy video games' Real Is Brown trope?

Color is going away from too many things. Also cars... and for some reason, Taco Bells.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

epistasis wrote: post #292
IgorPartola wrote: post #249

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Wait it isn’t because 5.1 became the norm for recording movies bust most people have a 2.0 or a 2.1 setup at most? I thought that was the conventional wisedom.

It's hard to believe that TVs are still so buggy that they would intentionally play 5.1 in an unusable way on regular TVs. Of all the ways to deal with the situation, just adding up all the channels equally and dumping them out has to be the stupidest. It's ruined so many people's experiences over the years.

I'm just fed up with modern sound. It never sounds right, and it's just too complicated. I use captions on a lot of shows where there is dialog that is too quiet, etc. I'm pretty sure my sound system is not set up right, but I just don't want to figure it out. I debug software for a living. I just want my entertainment system to be plug and play.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #678
alvah wrote: post #589

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The account you replied to replied to a comment of mine on another thread with a weird word salad. It was suggested to me that said account may be a bot...

Their profile claims: >Perhaps you'll think my comments are unthinkable. My only response to that is that they were legibly written, not by a machine, but by a writer with a soul.

They are legible because my browser uses a reasonable font. Whether they are intelligible is another matter.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by hot_gril »

jjulius wrote: post #660
hot_gril wrote: post #170

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> The reason TikTok etc. have closed captions on is that audio is off by default. If you want people to listen to your words but audio is off, put it into closed captions. I can't believe that whole dramatic article missed this very obvious reason.

It didn't. When I downloaded it the other week to see what all the hubbub was about (spoiler alert: I killed it with fire lol), audio was on by default and I had to change that setting. I'd wager that OP forgot that they set it themselves.

Still, it's probably a common setting, or it's common to have your system-wide audio disabled when watching videos in public.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by brokenmachine »

aidenn0 wrote: post #282
lostlogin wrote: post #237

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Many devices have a night mode to help keep the range of volumes small. The Sonos one is perfect for my use case. It changed my evening life when I found this.

I wish my Denon AVR had a usable night mode. Instead it has a setting called "dynamic volume" that makes it so all dialog right after an explosion is inaudible...

I believe what you'd call night mode is called "Dynamic EQ" on the Denons.

This basically adds more bass and treble as you lower the volume, due to the way the ear works - the Fletcher Munson curve.

This still won't help with the terrible excess dynamic range that current movies insist on doing though.

You'll still have to adjust the volume all the time, but it will make things sound much better at lower volumes.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by brokenmachine »

weinzierl wrote: post #378
ryandrake wrote: post #136

One more vote for terrible audio mixes and one for actors who mumble their dialog. Whenever I watch movies with my wife, we constantly have to fiddle with the remote control. The loud parts (including explosions and music) are too loud for her, so we have to turn the volume down during those parts, but the dialog is too quiet and mumbly for me to hear, so we turn the volume up during those parts. We now just keep the…

> "The loud parts (including explosions and music) are too loud for her, so we have to turn the volume down during those parts, but the dialog is too quiet [..]" On YouTube the ads are the explosions. Ads are so loud compared to the regular videos that I often just turn the volume down and the captions on.

There's a "mute" button too.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by daniel-cussen »

ConceptJunkie wrote: post #694
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #678

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Their profile claims: >Perhaps you'll think my comments are unthinkable. My only response to that is that they were legibly written, not by a machine, but by a writer with a soul.

They are legible because my browser uses a reasonable font. Whether they are intelligible is another matter.

Interesting. Yeah that's cool, am I intelligible or not? Well I can say for certain the malpractice, the lobotomy, didn't help with that. Lost the ability to express clever ideas. Like I can no longer think that way.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by GuardianCaveman »

FearNotDaniel wrote: post #673
azemetre wrote: post #556

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One of the reasons why I bought an Apple TV was the ability to pair it with my airpods. Makes is super convenient to hear everything if you live in an apartment, also some shows take advantage of the spatial audio which is neat if you don't have a proper sound setup. I still turn on subtitles tho. On that front I've been noticing some subtitles will not match the english dialogue at all. This is noticeable on the Net…

> some subtitles will not match the english dialogue at all I have the same issues when watching shows and movies translated into German. Trying to improve my level of the language, but with both the dubbed soundtrack and the subs turned on almost every line of dialogue differs between the two. I assume it's because the subtitles generally reflect the original script very closely but the dubbed version requires more…

I have this in Spanish and it's frustrating. I assumed that at some point it was subtitled by one group and then later maybe dubbed by another company. I know in places like Italy, most foreign things are dubbed, and in other places in latin america most things are subtitled at least and dubbed second which leads me to this theory. But really I have no clue. A quick google search turned up the first result talking about your idea of matching the lips better and also this "Translators/subtitlers are often given scripts which don’t match exactly what was shot. The subtitling team often has no contact with the sound team, so they may have two different translations. "

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by hinkley »

ericcholis wrote: post #173
hinkley wrote: post #135

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I had to buy a 3.1 bar just to get a center channel. Basically one of us couldn't make out voices without it, and there were a couple movies/shows where it was just unwatchable. I'm not sure why things like Apple TV can't do a more credible job remixing the audio for 2 speakers.

I think the speakers in most TV's these days are a big culprit.

I bought my TV in part based on reviews for audio quality. And while that’s certainly part of the equation, this has just been getting worse the last few years.
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