Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those are containers, not VMs.
They can be either. This is expressly supported, e.g. by the libvirt tooling ecosystem.
Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
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Re: Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
#52I find kubernetes - systemd overlap angle as a very valid point. When I first started to learn kubernetes more often than not I was thinking 'hey, we can do that with systemd as well!'
I noticed the same but came away with a different conclusion, "hey, k8s is reimplementing the OS.". In other words, concepts which have existed for years, battle tested and well known, are new and untested in the k8s world.
Re: Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
#53I find kubernetes - systemd overlap angle as a very valid point. When I first started to learn kubernetes more often than not I was thinking 'hey, we can do that with systemd as well!'
I noticed the same but came away with a different conclusion, "hey, k8s is reimplementing the OS.". In other words, concepts which have existed for years, battle tested and well known, are new and untested in the k8s world.
Re: Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
#54I'm skeptical, and I think systemd gets way more hate than it deserves, but it's interesting to see an alternative from someone outside of the "Make Init Shell Again" crowd.
systemd is like chicken tendies -- its always been there for me.
But I was then quite surprised a few years later when it was just the normal thing for me when people in Debian were basically fighting a war over it.
Re: Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
#55I think I'm stupid, because for me this all seems overly complex. Why do the things get more and more complex instead of the opposite? Is it really the only way? Like said, I'm clearly stupid for not understanding it.
Re: Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
#56I find kubernetes - systemd overlap angle as a very valid point. When I first started to learn kubernetes more often than not I was thinking 'hey, we can do that with systemd as well!'
I noticed the same but came away with a different conclusion, "hey, k8s is reimplementing the OS.". In other words, concepts which have existed for years, battle tested and well known, are new and untested in the k8s world.
...and they also create lock-in wrt k8s.
Re: Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
#57It looks like the Aurae language leverages Rhai? Or is that temporary?
In "Aurae Scope", would logging be in scope as well?
Do you think Aurae would be a nice successor to docker swarm, or is that not a product goal?
Re: Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
#58I find kubernetes - systemd overlap angle as a very valid point. When I first started to learn kubernetes more often than not I was thinking 'hey, we can do that with systemd as well!'
This is how fleet on CoreOS was designed. It just managed systemd containers across your nodes (IIRC its been a while)
That was still early days for systemd-nspawn, folks would be using docker containers under systemd services. And that caused heaps of other problems because docker was aspiring to do PID 1's jobs as well.
Re: Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
#59I think I'm stupid, because for me this all seems overly complex. Why do the things get more and more complex instead of the opposite? Is it really the only way? Like said, I'm clearly stupid for not understanding it.
Assume you have a $25k budget for a Dell server and $20k for attached storage . Go see what you can build on Dell.com's online configuration tool.
You could colocate everything you can buy for $45k in a half rack at a reputable datacenter for $750 per month including a burstable to 1gbit internet connection.
I estimate that at least 75% of the people who are commenting on these threads, will not have a product or service that could cause that server to choke on the load, nor saturate the 1gbit feed with legitimate traffic from their applications.
But they will instead recommend that for 600k/year in spend you over-engineer all aspects... I call it CVops instead of DevOps. CV being another word for resume...
Re: Why Fix Kubernetes and Systemd?
#60I think I'm stupid, because for me this all seems overly complex. Why do the things get more and more complex instead of the opposite? Is it really the only way? Like said, I'm clearly stupid for not understanding it.
You're not the one who is insane. Assume you have a $25k budget for a Dell server and $20k for attached storage . Go see what you can build on Dell.com's online configuration tool. You could colocate everything you can buy for $45k in a half rack at a reputable datacenter for $750 per month including a burstable to 1gbit internet connection. I estimate that at least 75% of the people who are commenting on these threa…
I might borrow this, although I'm leaning towards Res[ume]Ops