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Hmmm I like the message but I partly disagree with some of what they are saying in regards to narrative tap out. I’ve found some things no one can truly understand some things that people go through unless they went through it themselves. I’ve encountered it both ways, and theres just some things that people seem to only be able to understand on their own through experiences. Opening up to other people is exhausting,…
I'm not living a story. My life is really boring.
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This is the great thing of having a nerdy side: You know that literally everything will get interesting if you just dive into it deep enough. Sometimes I feel sad for people who cannot experience that joy.
Alternatively - "The nicest thing about anything is not knowing what it is." - George Carlin. Not knowing how a cloud works is magical for instance. But taking this line of thinking too far can be disastrous. There is a happy middle ground.
So you can enjoy an aesthetic experience in a far different manner than the unaesthetic, like reading, or figuring out a puzzle, etc.
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This is the great thing of having a nerdy side: You know that literally everything will get interesting if you just dive into it deep enough. Sometimes I feel sad for people who cannot experience that joy.
Alternatively - "The nicest thing about anything is not knowing what it is." - George Carlin. Not knowing how a cloud works is magical for instance. But taking this line of thinking too far can be disastrous. There is a happy middle ground.
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I try to remind myself that there are perfectly fine reasons for this to occur. For example, the person might suffer from insomnia. They might have a lower functioning brain due to developmental issues. They may have been in an accident which caused brain trauma. They might operate on a wavelength sufficiently different from you in that moment such that communication seems impossible, and you perceive that as their d…
Or, they might have been zombies for real. That is, people who merely exist, but do not really live anymore. The world is full of them. People who have no more hopes or dreams, other than to make it somehow through the day.
Life can be incredibly difficult. It can become scary to dream. The will and desire to do so comes much more easily when you world tells you it’s permissible and rewarding to do so. For many of us, this doesn’t happen. Dreams get crushed over and over, hopes washed away, and fortune doesn’t favour us nearly as much as others.
Not all of us are Epictetus, Viktor Frankl, or other wise philosophers who could take adversity and transform it into meaning and joy. Even so, I doubt very much that this kind of person is anything like a zombie. Maybe outwardly so, but that means very little.
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I try to remind myself that there are perfectly fine reasons for this to occur. For example, the person might suffer from insomnia. They might have a lower functioning brain due to developmental issues. They may have been in an accident which caused brain trauma. They might operate on a wavelength sufficiently different from you in that moment such that communication seems impossible, and you perceive that as their d…
The most common explanation is one that didn't make your list, which is that they might not care at all about the subject being discussed. If it's a work situation that prompted it, that's by far the most likely answer to why they aren't using any brainpower to think about how to use the new system: their brainpower is already being used in the background to compare fishing lures. :-)
This was me as a child, quite literally. What kind of lure should I use after school at the lake, and how can I function minimally to survive class until then?
My teachers thought I was a complete idiot, haha.
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Or, they might have been zombies for real. That is, people who merely exist, but do not really live anymore. The world is full of them. People who have no more hopes or dreams, other than to make it somehow through the day.
These people likely have rich inner lives. What makes it hard to hope and dream other than incredible sensitivity, difficult experiences, and complex stories and histories that paralyze a person as they move through life? Life can be incredibly difficult. It can become scary to dream. The will and desire to do so comes much more easily when you world tells you it’s permissible and rewarding to do so. For many of us,…
Some people have this as default, after being grinded down enough.
There is then also no more rich inner life.
Only different grades of sadness, stress and numbness.
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maybe I'm just an asshole but I've felt whatever is the opposite of sonder these days when I come across people that are so clueless and inattentive they might as well be zombies.
it's hard to reconcile, right? conversely I've been the clueless guy enough to realize we all do it. like getting angry at random trash and then thinking "you know, maybe someone dropped this by accident when they thought they got it into their pocket"
I don't agree with this article. I do agree that everyone is living a story that you know nothing about. But I think everyone on some level is aware of this lack of knowledge about other peoples' lives. In fact I feel it's rather obvious that even the most random person on the street lives a very complex life. A call for compassion because people are "unaware" of the complex lives other people live is a feel good nar…
It still works. Same way the bad guy in the movie gets told "I have a wife and kids" and sometimes spares the bank guard. It is very different what we know when we sit on the couch and muse about it, from what we know when we are directly engaged in a particular set of actions. It helps when you're in the second to be reminded.
0.001% rounds to 0 which is inline with what I said. On a fundamental level, we don't care.
>It is very different what we know when we sit on the couch and muse about it, from what we know when we are directly engaged in a particular set of actions.
You're musing too. And you mused the opposite of what I mused.
I would say, my analysis goes beyond simple musing. It's evidence based.
Observe the actions and inaction of the world and yourself. How much of your wealth have you donated to people in need? You have enough wealth to save dying people. There are definitely people in the US who need money to pay for chemo or some other treatment for some terminal disease. How much effort did you spend to find these people and donate a fraction of your wealth to save a life?
None. People have already died because of your inaction. Entire complex stories have been already been lost... And does this inaction keep you awake at night? No. Because you don't care. And neither does anyone else.
This is evidence that what I am saying is more inline with truth then simple musing.
For much of my life, I was a jerk. I was insecure and often became offended and unkind when things didn't unfold the way I thought they should. It really screwed up my relationships and in my mid-50s, I found myself pretty much angry and alone in the world. I was constantly stuck in a story no one else really knew much about. What I came to understand was that I had picked up certain ideas about myself over the cours…