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Re: Search 5.8B images used to train popular AI art models

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Post by NicoleJO »

XorNot wrote: post #63
hammyhavoc wrote: post #51

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The intellectual property they train an algorithm with and charge money for. This is some real mental gymnastics.

So you're trying to assert copyright on something which isn't a copy of something? Again, where in the neural weights does your original work live? EDIT: Let's consider a simpler scenario - I take an MD5 sum of one of your photos, and then hash collide a an image from my phone camera till I find a match. Which part of this process is "stealing"?

Copyright owners have the right to control when, where, how and by whom their content may be used. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/106

Re: Search 5.8B images used to train popular AI art models

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Post by [deleted] »

NicoleJO wrote: post #87
simandl wrote: post #35

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Please do sign up and you'll be able to flag these images soon. We'll work to get them removed from this and future datasets built for AI training.

Why did you include them in the 1st place? What legal right did you have to do that?

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Re: Search 5.8B images used to train popular AI art models

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Post by simandl »

NicoleJO wrote: post #84
simandl wrote: post #61

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You might be surprised. We have almost as many opt-in requests as opt-outs since we announced this today. We don't see this as binary in the long term. Maybe artists want to release art from a prior period, for example, but withhold their current series until they move to the next.

Why is opt out a thing? Who told you you could use the data in the first place? It's copyrighted. Reproducing any of it is a crime.

Reading through your comments, it appears you're under the impression that we (Spawning) trained models using this data. That is not the case. We're building tools to help people to remove themselves from, or add themselves to, datasets used (by others) to train these models. We're hoping to make that as close to 0 effort as possible for all parties. We agree that artists should control how their works are used, and we're working hard to make that the norm.

Re: Search 5.8B images used to train popular AI art models

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Post by FeepingCreature »

throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #83
gigel82 wrote: post #9

It's surprising how poorly labeled these images are; who is curating this collection? Can't they crowd-source a proper labeling project - I wonder how much better things like Stable Diffusion would be if its training would include correct, complete labels for the images. I'm sure lots of folks would willingly spend a few minutes here and there to aid with the labeling if it means they get to enjoy the model for free.

if there are any researchers reading this, I'd like to introduce you to booru porn galleries like rule34. millions of images meticulously labelled by dedicated enthusiasts

https://www.gwern.net/Danbooru2021

Re: Search 5.8B images used to train popular AI art models

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Post by Cyphase »

latchkey wrote: post #11
at_a_remove wrote: post #5

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Let's think of reasons! 1) Privacy. 2) Lack of geolocation data associated. 3) Privacy. 4) Lack of contact information attached. 5) Privacy. 6) Lack of case numbers for various missing persons cases being attached. 7) Privacy.

Certainly this could be used for evil (tm), but it seems like something could also be built out that enables this for good in ways that don't cause issues with Mr. Fibbonaci.

Is that the Prison Break reference I think it is? :D

Re: Search 5.8B images used to train popular AI art models

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Post by throw_m239339 »

simandl wrote: post #35
hammyhavoc wrote: post #33

Wow, so I've been trained. Many times over. Photos stolen from my personal portfolio.

Please do sign up and you'll be able to flag these images soon. We'll work to get them removed from this and future datasets built for AI training.

"better ask for forgiveness than ask for permission" or something? It can't always work that way.

Re: Search 5.8B images used to train popular AI art models

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Post by throw_m239339 »

quantified wrote: post #41
smel wrote: post #37

There is a lot of porn there

I'll get downvoted massively, but porn is by definition art (meant to be viewed and evoke reactions, just as advertising art is), and has been some of the most important creative outputs for as almost as long as humans have been creating art.

> but porn is by definition art

No, that's why it's called pornography, very much to differentiate it from something "noble" like art, it's vulgar and trivial, by the very definition of the word it isn't art.

Re: Search 5.8B images used to train popular AI art models

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Post by throw_m239339 »

UncleEntity wrote: post #49
quantified wrote: post #41

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I'll get downvoted massively, but porn is by definition art (meant to be viewed and evoke reactions, just as advertising art is), and has been some of the most important creative outputs for as almost as long as humans have been creating art.

> meant to be viewed and evoke reactions, just as advertising art is And when they mix the two things get interesting. Having topless women selling (cow’s) milk was a very strange experience as a “prudish” American.

> And when they mix the two things get interesting. Having topless women selling (cow’s) milk was a very strange experience as a “prudish” American.

Yes, and the guy who took these "porno chic" pictures was outed as a creep and harasser.

Re: Search 5.8B images used to train popular AI art models

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Post by simandl »

NicoleJO wrote: post #92

Readme1st: What’s Really Behind Those AI Art Images? https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/galaxy-brain/6317de90bcb...

This article highlights several of the problems that we are working on. Here's another article, about our organization:

https://www.inputmag.com/culture/mat-dryhurst-holly-herndon-...

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