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The UX of Porn Tube Sites Are Designed for the Ultimate Money Shot
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the lack of crypto payments for porn should be a strong sign that it’s useless.
This is a wrong correlation fallacy. Porn sites, while very cutting edge in a lot of ways (which generates more revenue for them), are extremely slow to adopt changes to their source of revenue because they are very protective about that aspect (for obvious reasons). Not only that, but the sources of revenue are all deeply intertwined with their affiliate networks, which drive the traffic to the sites in the first pl…
There was the ft podcast about porn in which the creator of nats https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Thylmann played an important part in the consolidation leading to mind geek.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
A leak of an executable doesn't imply a requirement to provide source anymore than a theft implies a warranty.
I meant a leak of the source code, not the executable. If the source code comes with a license that was intentionally applied by the copyright holder, does it matter that it wasn't intended to be released if the license allows for general use?
If I make changes to a GPL3 library, but never distribute it, and you come along and leak it, you've distributed my changes without a license. Those changes are toxic, and the result cannot be distributed by anyone. It's not really any different than the usual dance one has to perform to combine two components with incompatible licenses: you can mix the ingredients yourself, you can tell people how to mix the ingredients themselves, but you can't distribute the cake.
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#154The worst thing about data driven UX - especially with porn - is that it's often a self fulfilling prophecy. Trends that are likely side-effects are considered to be primary factors driving engagement. With porn, it's usually a fetish that is only moderately popular, but broadly unoffensive. Because the average person who isn't specifically interested in the fetish isn't turned off by it either, that fetish gets more…
>No one I've talked to is actually interested in the step-sibling fetish,
I derive much enjoyment of the lewd but not pornographic memes and other humor it generates as a byproduct of being widespread.
So I guess that supports your theory that nobody actually wants that in their porn.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a wrong correlation fallacy. Porn sites, while very cutting edge in a lot of ways (which generates more revenue for them), are extremely slow to adopt changes to their source of revenue because they are very protective about that aspect (for obvious reasons). Not only that, but the sources of revenue are all deeply intertwined with their affiliate networks, which drive the traffic to the sites in the first pl…
There was the ft podcast about porn in which the creator of nats https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Thylmann played an important part in the consolidation leading to mind geek.
Oh interesting! I didn't know that bit of history.
From the engineering side, the software was beyond horrid. Different versions of their software would re-use the same column in a database for different things! They'd do things like if id>=5000 { do something else } in their code. I always wanted to rewrite it and produce something that was actually sane.
But, being in the p0rn industry, it made it super difficult to hire talented engineers because people were afraid to talk about where they worked (or just had issues p0rn) and I myself left without ever having the chance to do so. Funny enough, I see a similar hiring issue with crypto today.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No one I've talked to is actually interested in the step-sibling fetish, yet the overwhelming majority of content being made and advertised - especially by mainstream studios and well-known actors - is step-sibling themed. Why? Because these studios are deciding what to make based on what's popular on pornhub, and what's popular on pornhub is literally anything these studios make. I sincerely doubt that they would…
> 1. It's an easy plot to make up. As opposed to what? Having literally no plot at all? Like 99% of porn? The entire basis of my contention is that people are watching step-sibling porn despite the plot, not because of it. I stand by that assertion.
> As opposed to what? Having literally no plot at all?
yeah, they get to capture whatever market there is for that taboo plotline (which probably isn't insignificant considering it's in the top most searched list[0][1]) without any real downsides for them since people can generally just ignore that and pretend otherwise.
0. https://www.pornhub.com/insights/yir-2021#Most-Searched-for-... 1. https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2019-year-in-review#searche...
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#157I built the IT infrastructure for one of the largest hardcore porn sites out there. When we did a complete rebuild of it (because it was in horrible PHP code), we tried to do a redesign and the CEO of the company made us change it back. Why? Because it was too nice and the UX was too good. He told us that his customers actually appreciated a more 'dirty' and 'raw' feel to the site. It is porn after all! So, we went b…
> his customers actually appreciated a more 'dirty' and 'raw' feel to the site. It is porn after all!
Sounds like HN.
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#158[dead]
Too many icons covering the girls, can hardly see them. On mobile though, maybe this works on a larger screen.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are crypto payments for porn tho
Right—but, considering that porn sites famously have tons of trouble with traditional payment processors, if crypto were both practically workable for normal people as a payment method, and actually good for that, in terms of having significant advantages over their halfway-adversarial traditional payment partners, it should be dominating the industry. I can't believe I'd never made that connection, but it's dead on.…
I do actually think crypto payments are superior for porn, esp as we see visa/Mastercard threaten businesses like OF
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if you copy any of the code into your back-end, your whole back-end must be open sourced That’s a feature, not a bug. If you don’t want that, don’t use it.
Correct, but it would be foolish not to warn people BEFORE they peek around the code. GPL (and by extension I assume AGPL) states that even translating the work to a new language still constitutes as copying and therefore the resulting code must be GPL'd.
All projects like this prominently include the license file in the root directory of their code repository. If you don’t read that, you only have yourself to blame. If you have read it but still don’t understand how the license works, don’t touch it or ask a lawyer to help.