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The UX of Porn Tube Sites Are Designed for the Ultimate Money Shot

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Re: The UX of Porn Tube Sites Are Designed for the Ultimate Money Shot

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Post by hooverd »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #55
dmonitor wrote: post #41

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I haven't seen any porn site with tagging, search, or browse features as well made as e621 (or any booru website)

I think because most of these sites are dominated by user uploads, it doesn't really help to have a great tagging system, because inevitably you end up with a huge library of videos with insufficient/wrong tags. Arguably the majority will have shitty tags, lots of misspellings, etc. The consequence is if you did an AND search with 6 tags say, you'd end up exclude most if not all the results that would match your quer…

IDK, feet people have their own wiki. I think it would really depend on the fetish. Engineers are into BDSM, etc.

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Post by thomastjeffery »

shishy wrote: post #110
thomastjeffery wrote: post #67

The worst thing about data driven UX - especially with porn - is that it's often a self fulfilling prophecy. Trends that are likely side-effects are considered to be primary factors driving engagement. With porn, it's usually a fetish that is only moderately popular, but broadly unoffensive. Because the average person who isn't specifically interested in the fetish isn't turned off by it either, that fetish gets more…

> No one I've talked to is actually interested in the step-sibling fetish Why would anyone admit it publicly :P

I don't mean publicly. I mean in conversations where interest in taboo fetish is common and encouraged.

And I have no doubt that there are people who get excited about step-sibling fetish. I just figure that if it was as common to want step-sibling porn as it is to find it, then I would have met (or heard from) someone by now who does.

Re: The UX of Porn Tube Sites Are Designed for the Ultimate Money Shot

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Post by PointlessLogin »

sbf501 wrote: post #87
thomastjeffery wrote: post #67

The worst thing about data driven UX - especially with porn - is that it's often a self fulfilling prophecy. Trends that are likely side-effects are considered to be primary factors driving engagement. With porn, it's usually a fetish that is only moderately popular, but broadly unoffensive. Because the average person who isn't specifically interested in the fetish isn't turned off by it either, that fetish gets more…

> but really took off over the last few years with "step sibling" porn. Even one of the Mortys in R&M made a wish that "inc*st porn have more a mainstream appeal." My partner both winced at that and said to each other, "Did he just say what I think he said?" So maybe I'm just too old and traditional (despite being queer)?

> inc*st

Why are you staring this out?

Isn't it bizarre to self censor your words in this way? Being overly sensitive to causing offence isn't healthy.

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Post by smabie »

numpad0 wrote: post #112
astrange wrote: post #103

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> and also to appease older demographic because it is often argued that fetish move downwards as people ages I can’t tell if you’re saying people have foot fetishes because their fetishes moved “downwards” here. Like does it start with hair?

I don't know if it actually starts with hair, but yes it's often said that area of interest moves from chest to lower torso to legs as one ages. Is this not widely known or told? Not something openly discussed in public but I thought it's something you hear from across a room and later observe in life.

Never heard this one before..

Re: The UX of Porn Tube Sites Are Designed for the Ultimate Money Shot

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Post by SllX »

mtmail wrote: post #69
alenrozac wrote: post #20

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...like Google Earth?

Terravision existed prior ( https://www.dailydot.com/debug/google-earth-sued-patent-infr... )

They probably got it from Snow Crash. The oldest surviving globes of the known world date back to 1492 according to Wikipedia and the Greeks probably created their own variations a few millennia ago.

Turtles, turtles, turtles! All the way down.

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Post by PointlessLogin »

collegeburner wrote: post #49
thaufeki wrote: post #14

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Why would they want less time spent on the site? That's optimal perhaps for the user not site, and the article discusses how the site is designed to keep the user searching.

Content ideally suited to a user may cause him to "finish his business" sooner and leave the site rather than continuing to click and browse.

> him

That's a sweeping assumption you have made there my friend :-)

Re: The UX of Porn Tube Sites Are Designed for the Ultimate Money Shot

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Post by smabie »

l33t233372 wrote: post #68
collegeburner wrote: post #53

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Dang I saw that was a new feature but didn't know they'd actually started borrowing features from porn sites. What the heck is the youtube team doing that they're creating useful features slower than that sort of site?

I take issue with that assessment. Porn sites exist in a fiercely competitive environment AND they are profitable. These are two features that Youtube lacks and their presence on porn sites reflects (at least partially) favorably on their engineering quality/innovation.

Yep, totally agree. porn sites exist in an highly adverse environment.

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Post by yamtaddle »

godmode2019 wrote: post #48

I had a friend once tell me that porn was the driving force for innovation on the internet. Firstly getting the speeds up to load images, then videos with buffering then 4k, then VR. The design features and business model of porn sites is years ahead of anything else, for a reason these sites up until very recently were the majority of bandwith over the Internet. A business model you will start to see more which is v…

> You release 10min clip of say a podcast and to watch the rest you need to join the members only site.

That's exactly what John Oliver's show does, and has for years, right? They have a couple major segments and two or three smaller bits in an episode, and one of the two major segments gets released in its entirety for free (and inevitably linked by someone or another in every half-way relevant discussion thread anywhere on the Web). They post them on YouTube, I think, I suppose since HBO Max doesn't have a free streaming site and it wouldn't get 1/10 the eyeballs of YouTube even if they did, and the point is advertising, after all.

Re: The UX of Porn Tube Sites Are Designed for the Ultimate Money Shot

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Post by latchkey »

astrange wrote: post #106
giancarlostoro wrote: post #51

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Wasn't porn the first ecommerce offering? Like they were the pioneers of "give me your credit card we give you porn." or is that an urban legend, I swear I've heard this remarked here on HN before, I just don't have any solid citations.

And the lack of crypto payments for porn should be a strong sign that it’s useless.

This is a wrong correlation fallacy.

Porn sites, while very cutting edge in a lot of ways (which generates more revenue for them), are extremely slow to adopt changes to their source of revenue because they are very protective about that aspect (for obvious reasons).

Not only that, but the sources of revenue are all deeply intertwined with their affiliate networks, which drive the traffic to the sites in the first place. Shaving is a huge concern, so these sites have to use 'approved' software that everyone else uses for this.

One of the largest used pieces of software is called NATS [1] and it is a trainwreck of complexity. Everything is directed through their integrated billing options [2]... which as you can see is extensive. Why? Because credit card companies will routinely shut down your merchant account randomly... because p0rn.

For the company I worked for (early 2000's), we developed a micro currency that was HUGELY successful and was used for all sorts of interesting things, like pay per minute billing. This was all early/pre days of blockchain adoption and had we used a low cost blockchain of some of this, it might have allowed for earlier more interesting experiments.

Anyway, the full answer is that this is a lot more complex than it appears on the surface and you have no idea what you're talking about here with a comment like that.

[1] https://toomuchmedia.com/pp_nats.htm

[2] https://toomuchmedia.com/pp_nats-billers.htm

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