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Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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Post by giantg2 »

hammock wrote: post #59
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #46

This is why I really like the added security of the new Apple magnetic wallet I got. The wallet holds your cards and attaches to the back of the phone using magnets. While the inside of the wallet is magnetically shielded, I’ve found it’s nearly impossible when actually handling the magnetic wallet not to accidentally pass the card past the outside of the magnetic wallet. I have found that my card no longer works in…

With just about everything either chip or tap now, is there any danger in just scratching out the mag stripe of my cards?

The small number of places with older swipe only terminals. Or when the chip isn't working (Lowes has a stripe reader on the register if the main terminal isn't working; mainly used for gift cards though). And finally, an alert employee might not accept a damaged card.

Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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Post by bob1029 »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #46

This is why I really like the added security of the new Apple magnetic wallet I got. The wallet holds your cards and attaches to the back of the phone using magnets. While the inside of the wallet is magnetically shielded, I’ve found it’s nearly impossible when actually handling the magnetic wallet not to accidentally pass the card past the outside of the magnetic wallet. I have found that my card no longer works in…

Those must have been some low-coercivity card stock. HiCo cards should be very resilient to this sort of thing.

Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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Post by Aperocky »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #46

This is why I really like the added security of the new Apple magnetic wallet I got. The wallet holds your cards and attaches to the back of the phone using magnets. While the inside of the wallet is magnetically shielded, I’ve found it’s nearly impossible when actually handling the magnetic wallet not to accidentally pass the card past the outside of the magnetic wallet. I have found that my card no longer works in…

Can't have a mag stripe vulnerability if there is no more mag stripe, such simple and elegant solution is tradition for Apple (can't have a broken home button when you don't have one!)

Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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Post by callalex »

JasonFruit wrote: post #72
renewiltord wrote: post #2

I use contactless to get money out of the ATM. It looks like they'd get my PIN in this method but they can't replicate the card, then, right?

"Contactless" is not a noun, and I refuse to allow it to become one without opposition.

Why?

Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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Post by olyjohn »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #26
bparsons wrote: post #17

At this point, this is simply the negligence of the banks. Most OECD countries switched to chip technology over a decade ago.

It may be worth running a magnet over your cards at this point. I can't think of a time I've used the mag-stripe. The skimmers here have a passthrough hole for the chip which means the mag-stripe only exists to feed the skimmers. So even this use case that gets skimmed isn't even using the mag-stripe itself! Fuck it. Where's my magnet.

I've used the mag stripe tons of times over the last couple of years. Most of the time it's when I get "CHIP MALFUNCTION" errors at a card reader, or sometimes they just tell me to swipe for no good reason. I wouldn't kill the stripe unless you've got a backup with you, at least for a while.

Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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Post by [deleted] »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #35
naet wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love using cash. Sometimes I don't when my local ATM is down (which seems to happen so often...), but when I can it feels much better to me. No digital records, no potential for this type of skimmer or other scam, don't have to give up my ATM pin, no worrying about my phone running out of charge, able to give it away freely to anyone in need without setting up a digital transfer, the old taco truck still only takes…

> Already there are a (small) number of modern restaurants that don't accept cash in my area. Is that even legal?

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Re: Crazy Thin ‘Deep Insert’ ATM Skimmers

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Post by noirbot »

hammock wrote: post #59
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #46

This is why I really like the added security of the new Apple magnetic wallet I got. The wallet holds your cards and attaches to the back of the phone using magnets. While the inside of the wallet is magnetically shielded, I’ve found it’s nearly impossible when actually handling the magnetic wallet not to accidentally pass the card past the outside of the magnetic wallet. I have found that my card no longer works in…

With just about everything either chip or tap now, is there any danger in just scratching out the mag stripe of my cards?

If you go anywhere where they hold a tab open, such as a bar, you can't do that with tap/chip. Not that that's a blocker, since worst case you do a bunch of single transactions, but it's an annoyance.
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