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The UX of Porn Tube Sites Are Designed for the Ultimate Money Shot

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Post by jsgo »

thaufeki wrote: post #14
hackernewds wrote: post #11

Callous comparison. Take a step back and imagine what success, and reflection of good rankings algos would be on these sites. Longer engagement times and multiple videos (+ads) for YouTube. Shorter time on site and less videos for Pornhub. The interfaces would be designed accordingly with those end goals in mind.

Why would they want less time spent on the site? That's optimal perhaps for the user not site, and the article discusses how the site is designed to keep the user searching.

How long does one need to watch porn in a single sitting? Netflix,YouTube, TikTok, etc. benefit from the fact we can sit there all day watching it (and some people do). Porn? Well...

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Post by mtnGoat »

I think the author is being too generous.

The layouts were designed over a decade ago and most tubes sites just copied YouTube for a layout, assuming They know what they were doing when they designed it. Or copied other existing tube sites’ layouts. A lot of these sites started by using an out of the box software that has a prebuilt back then as well. The designs weren’t changed because why would you change a horse that’s winning you many millions per month? Plus everyone was afraid of changing anything that might hurt their seo ranking.

Source: worked in that industry for over a decade and know/knew many of the decision makers at these companies. They weren’t that strategic, I assure you.

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Post by weaksauce »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #67

The worst thing about data driven UX - especially with porn - is that it's often a self fulfilling prophecy. Trends that are likely side-effects are considered to be primary factors driving engagement. With porn, it's usually a fetish that is only moderately popular, but broadly unoffensive. Because the average person who isn't specifically interested in the fetish isn't turned off by it either, that fetish gets more…

> No one I've talked to is actually interested in the step-sibling fetish, yet the overwhelming majority of content being made and advertised - especially by mainstream studios and well-known actors - is step-sibling themed. Why? Because these studios are deciding what to make based on what's popular on pornhub, and what's popular on pornhub is literally anything these studios make. I sincerely doubt that they would see a drop in engagement if they diversified, but trends in data will never drive diversity faster than they drive convergence, because convergence is essentially the goal of data driven production in the first place.

I think your analysis is incorrect... it's likely extremely profitable for the porn studios because: 1. It's an easy plot to make up. 2. requires absolutely no extra props fancy locations or anything beyond the basic porn shoot. 3. it's extremely taboo so for whoever is actually into that they get to rope in and for the rest of the porn consumers they can just skip the part where they have all that verbalized and it's basically normal porn for some version of normal.

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Post by astrange »

latchkey wrote: post #130
astrange wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the lack of crypto payments for porn should be a strong sign that it’s useless.

This is a wrong correlation fallacy. Porn sites, while very cutting edge in a lot of ways (which generates more revenue for them), are extremely slow to adopt changes to their source of revenue because they are very protective about that aspect (for obvious reasons). Not only that, but the sources of revenue are all deeply intertwined with their affiliate networks, which drive the traffic to the sites in the first pl…

I was thinking of the "indie" side, namely people using sites like onlyfans who constantly get banned from PayPal and such and so don't have access to money transfers.

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Post by thomastjeffery »

weaksauce wrote: post #143
thomastjeffery wrote: post #67

The worst thing about data driven UX - especially with porn - is that it's often a self fulfilling prophecy. Trends that are likely side-effects are considered to be primary factors driving engagement. With porn, it's usually a fetish that is only moderately popular, but broadly unoffensive. Because the average person who isn't specifically interested in the fetish isn't turned off by it either, that fetish gets more…

> No one I've talked to is actually interested in the step-sibling fetish, yet the overwhelming majority of content being made and advertised - especially by mainstream studios and well-known actors - is step-sibling themed. Why? Because these studios are deciding what to make based on what's popular on pornhub, and what's popular on pornhub is literally anything these studios make. I sincerely doubt that they would…

> 1. It's an easy plot to make up.

As opposed to what? Having literally no plot at all? Like 99% of porn? The entire basis of my contention is that people are watching step-sibling porn despite the plot, not because of it. I stand by that assertion.

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Post by collegeburner »

l33t233372 wrote: post #68
collegeburner wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dang I saw that was a new feature but didn't know they'd actually started borrowing features from porn sites. What the heck is the youtube team doing that they're creating useful features slower than that sort of site?

I take issue with that assessment. Porn sites exist in a fiercely competitive environment AND they are profitable. These are two features that Youtube lacks and their presence on porn sites reflects (at least partially) favorably on their engineering quality/innovation.

interesting i had the impression most sites were controlled by a very few companies. but tbh i can't say i know much about the space.

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Post by collegeburner »

PointlessLogin wrote: post #127
collegeburner wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Content ideally suited to a user may cause him to "finish his business" sooner and leave the site rather than continuing to click and browse.

> him That's a sweeping assumption you have made there my friend :-)

that was generic masculine but last time i looked at stats they show a huge gap in consumption

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Post by throwaway675309 »

sbf501 wrote: post #87
thomastjeffery wrote: post #67

The worst thing about data driven UX - especially with porn - is that it's often a self fulfilling prophecy. Trends that are likely side-effects are considered to be primary factors driving engagement. With porn, it's usually a fetish that is only moderately popular, but broadly unoffensive. Because the average person who isn't specifically interested in the fetish isn't turned off by it either, that fetish gets more…

> but really took off over the last few years with "step sibling" porn. Even one of the Mortys in R&M made a wish that "inc*st porn have more a mainstream appeal." My partner both winced at that and said to each other, "Did he just say what I think he said?" So maybe I'm just too old and traditional (despite being queer)?

I'm more concerned with your deliberate decision to censor the word incest.
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