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Re: YouTube currently testing 5 to 10 unskippable ads before video starts

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sad that it is not available on iOS

Yattee [1] and AdGuard [2] are two solutions I’ve found that can help. [1] https://github.com/yattee/yattee [2] https://adguard.com/en/blog/how-to-add-a-shortcut-to-block-y...

Wow thanks for this. Installed Yattee. Already knew about adguard, but Youtube has managed to beat it on occasion.

Re: YouTube currently testing 5 to 10 unskippable ads before video starts

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What is a red dot sticker?

Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/red-dot-stickers/s?k=red+dot+stickers Putting one on the mailbox means "No flyers please!", at least where I live.

I'd never heard of that before. I wish it were a thing where I live. But at least in my apartment complex, the recycling bin is right next to the mailboxes, so I can conveniently just move the junk mail straight from my mailbox to the bin.

Re: YouTube currently testing 5 to 10 unskippable ads before video starts

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They won't make it so annoying that they lose substantial percentage of viewers.

Hopefully not off topic: I continue to be surprised at how many of my friends don't pay for an ad-free YouTube (virtually all of them!). For about $15/month my wife and I get YouTube Music that includes ad-free (but content creators sometimes embed their own ads) YouTube. A bonus: when listening to old music from my youth, I am surprised at how often they have old videos available of the bands playing.

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Yattee [1] and AdGuard [2] are two solutions I’ve found that can help. [1] https://github.com/yattee/yattee [2] https://adguard.com/en/blog/how-to-add-a-shortcut-to-block-y...

Holy cow how have I not heard of testflight installation method with which yattee is being distributed! Reading up more on it, seems you need to be an ios developer to use it. Beh. Thanks for mentioning yatee, as adguard is severely lacking in that ads are rarely blocked.

You don't need to be a developer for test flight. I am not an iOS developer, but I have installed test flight for access to a few different apps.

Re: YouTube currently testing 5 to 10 unskippable ads before video starts

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I don’t like ads, especially not irrelevant and excessive ones (I pay for YouTube premium), but the amount of people bragging about getting around ads is just sad. I assume most of us here have jobs. Are we ok with working for free? Many people on YouTube do it full time, with ad revenue and exposure being their primary source of income. Somehow some people have it in their heads that if the job is entertainment then…

The issue to me is cost vs benefit to creators. I do back a few of my favorite Youtubers on Patreon (actually, I pay them each more than I would pay YouTube), however, creators actually receive very little from YouTube Premium subscriptions.

Re: YouTube currently testing 5 to 10 unskippable ads before video starts

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Another point to consider: Why does youtube permit ads to run that not only are not effective in generating revenue for the advertisers (as no users click through on them) but also harm user opinions of wanting to use youtube in general. Will google make the same mistakes that television made? A significant portion of purchases are now made online, so if users don't click through an ad that directly means they won't…

> Will google make the same mistakes that television made? TV didn't go away because of ads but because consumers shifted to a different model of consuming content. > also harm user opinions of wanting to use youtube in general Most people browse the web and don't even know about ad blockers. It's a very small bubble that's really loud and anti-ads. I hear from many people that actually like Instagram ads as they act…

> TV didn't go away because of ads but because consumers shifted to a different model of consuming content.

Perhaps. But a nontrivial percentage of people I know stopped watching TV because of the ads (especially the overlay ads) well before there were any serious alternatives to TV.

So, at least some audience was driven away by them.

Re: YouTube currently testing 5 to 10 unskippable ads before video starts

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I don’t like ads, especially not irrelevant and excessive ones (I pay for YouTube premium), but the amount of people bragging about getting around ads is just sad. I assume most of us here have jobs. Are we ok with working for free? Many people on YouTube do it full time, with ad revenue and exposure being their primary source of income. Somehow some people have it in their heads that if the job is entertainment then…

I was at the busstop this morning. There was an ad. I turned my back to it and looked at my phone.

Please tell me that I am a horrible human for defrauding the advertisers.

If I could get AR glasses which automatically removes any ad before I see it, I be a bad person too?

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What happens when everyone starts using ad block? Is the advertising market just going to collapse? I don’t think even the most willing consumer would sit through 10 ads for a youtube video.

We can but hope.

History, however, teaches us that the ad companies will find some other sneaky and awful tactic instead.

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> just pay for YouTube Premium This would imply signing-in. I don't sign in and reset the cookies regularly because I don't want my history tracked and suggestions personalized. But Okay, I would sign-in and pay, if every video page had a download button and the whole thing would give me an API exposing all the features reliably (so I could use it easily in 3-rd party players with search and suggestions).

> I don't want my history tracked and suggestions personalized. I am genuinely curious, how do you find videos worth your time without recommendations? 99.9% of what’s on YouTube I have zero interest in, the recommendation engine is how I cull the noise and actually find things to watch.

I've learned to completely ignore the recommendations because they tend to be terrible.

Instead, I find videos through talking with friends, as well as when YouTubers I do watch recommend them. It works very well for me.

Re: YouTube currently testing 5 to 10 unskippable ads before video starts

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Folks, just pay for YouTube Premium. In my family, between my kids and myself we watch more YouTube than Netflix/Disney+/Hulu combined so the YouTube family plan is the best value going.

Thats great for you.

For me, its way overpriced, considering they are not creating any of the content and it doesn't actually cover all ads.

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